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Originally posted by Assassin View PostI see this as the most positive
For all their fans say about the Glazers taking money out of the club and the debt impacting them, I think even if they had had twice as much money to spend in that time they wouldn't have been much better off. Because of the lack of any football philosophy or style of play, they need to buy players to suit a system. They have been buying players either off hype, or good players that they don't know what to do with. That for me was (part of) the problem with the Evans/Houllier era for us
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Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostThe Glazers took over in March 2003, they won the league that year and 5 times since, they won the CL as well, all under Ferguson. So it is possible to be successful with these owners, the problem is on the football side. Look at their big money transfers:
Mata £38m
Di Maria £59m
Martial £57m
Pogba £93m
Lindelof £40m
Lukaku £90m
Fred £60m
Wan Bissaka £50m
Maguire £80m
Fernandes £68m
van de Beek £40m
Sancho £73m
Varane £41m
Martinez £55m
That's almost £850m and it's difficult to argue that anything more than Fernandes has been a success so far. With that money they could have built a successful team but those players were either bought at way over the odds or the manager wasn't able to fit them into a system (or both). Based on our experience with H&G I can understand what it's like having **** owners but they are worlds away from the ownership situation we had. They are still one of the top spending clubs in world football.
I’d argue that since the crowds have been back Fernandes has been bang average.
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Originally posted by Rich View PostLooks disastrous business. He looks shorter than the 5 foot 9 he’s alleged to be.
Hooked at halftime. Welcome to the premier league
Neville speaks a lot of sense about football generally but with United he’s completely blinkered and defends the managers, players etc all the time, trying to push it all onto the owners. His comments yesterday were farcical. United have spent ****loads on dross due to not having any football plan whatsoever and changing managers every two minutes. Yes, the owners aren’t great but they have backed every manager to the hilt. Neville is a churlish cunt sometimes and yesterday was peak dickhead.
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Maybe but he has a one decent season or 18months so he has shown something for them, the rest of that list have been total ****eOriginally posted by Rich View PostI’d argue that since the crowds have been back Fernandes has been bang average.
He had a golden patch when the stadiums were empty. That’s it.
So if you remove him all of their major signing are ****e
Last edited by Exiled_red; 14-08-22, 01:18 PM.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Not quite; we lost to AC Milan in 2007 when the two bellends were at the helm, but your other point is well made.Originally posted by calvoboy View PostWe won the Champions League with Hicks and Gilett. It's just another excuse for his mate Ole - "no-one can succeed there with these owners".
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Originally posted by Tribute View PostNeville speaks a lot of sense about football generally but with United he’s completely blinkered and defends the managers, players etc all the time, trying to push it all onto the owners. His comments yesterday were farcical. United have spent ****loads on dross due to not having any football plan whatsoever and changing managers every two minutes. Yes, the owners aren’t great but they have backed every manager to the hilt. Neville is a churlish cunt sometimes and yesterday was peak dickhead.
he’s a clown. Hear him saying 15 to 20 years ago we had the best stadium in the world, now they need to build a new one… so what, do they need to replace it every 20 years? If it can go from “best in the world” to “rotting” in that time. In all seriousness, I know it has its issues with the leaky roof or whatever, but how exactly is the stadium to blame for the football being ****e (even in away games)?
They’re so entitled- spurs just built a new state of the art stadium, we should have one too! What an attitudeI don't tip
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