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    In which case sell him its a pointless exercise loaning him to West Ham

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      Originally posted by el matador View Post
      you have to feel for the player. he worked hard and ended the season really well and then carried that form into the euros.

      hes expecting to come back and feature heavily only to be told that he might be going out on loan to west ham.

      thats the sort of stuff that can really affect a players confidence.
      Behaved, didn't put a foot wrong off the field as many said he would, and, his goals to minutes ratio wasn't really that bad.

      Never mind, Big Sam will get the best out of him, he's a top coach don't ya know, and he's a chewing gum manager, none of those tica tacs in his pockets.

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        Originally posted by el matador View Post
        you have to feel for the player. he worked hard and ended the season really well and then carried that form into the euros.

        hes expecting to come back and feature heavily only to be told that he might be going out on loan to west ham.

        thats the sort of stuff that can really affect a players confidence.


        Originally posted by Chazza1978 View Post
        If we loan him then the type of team he goes to will say alot about his long term future.

        Going to someone like West Ham who are the polar opposite to the way Rodgers likes to play would indicate to me that we want rid


        West Ham wouldn't help his development at all. Basically all of the hard work Carroll and LFC have put in over the last year to improve Carroll's game would be a waste of time if he goes to a long-ball team like West Ham.

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          Originally posted by Chazza1978 View Post
          In which case sell him its a pointless exercise loaning him to West Ham
          Not at all. If he does well there then he comes back having scored 15-20 goals in a season, we could get a price much closer to what we paid for him.

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            That is if the intention of loaning Carroll is to eventually sell him or to improve his game so he could fit into our teams style of play.

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              Can't believe we would contemplate a loan. He was great at the end of last season, winning everything in the air.

              Tika taka is all good and well but you do need a plan B now and again.

              If you want to sell, then sell. If you want him to develop then keep him. A loan to West Ham would be a complete waste of time.

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                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                Behaved, didn't put a foot wrong off the field as many said he would, and, his goals to minutes ratio wasn't really that bad.

                Never mind, Big Sam will get the best out of him, he's a top coach don't ya know, and he's a chewing gum manager, none of those tica tacs in his pockets.
                It was for a striker with our level of expectation, especially in the league.
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                  Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                  It was for a striker with our level of expectation, especially in the league.
                  At a new club in and out of the team ?

                  We need to do something about those expectations then.

                  He was a hairs breadth from scoring a few goals too, so i can see the potential, but the price tag is killing him, every single thing he does is weighed against that, so he'll never win, at the time we bought him he was a 16million pound player imo, nothing more.
                  Last edited by Vermilion; 11-07-12, 10:41 AM.

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                    Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                    At a new club in and out of the team ?

                    We need to do something about those expectations then.

                    He was a hairs breadth from scoring a few goals too, so i can see the potential, but the price tag is killing him, every single thing he does is weighed against that, so he'll never win.
                    Sorry, but he has been here 18 months and got 6 goals in 42 games played. That is pretty atrocious.

                    No, we need better players.

                    No, he is just probably just not good enough for us.
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                      I don't know who you think we are anymore Matt. But we finished 8th in the league. We can't really get a better caliber at the moment. We have to make do with the players we can get.
                      *Except Michael, who died.

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                        Originally posted by tsb View Post
                        Can't believe we would contemplate a loan. He was great at the end of last season, winning everything in the air.

                        Tika taka is all good and well but you do need a plan B now and again.

                        If you want to sell, then sell. If you want him to develop then keep him. A loan to West Ham would be a complete waste of time.
                        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                          What are we a ****ing library? Loans loans loans. ****ing sell the cunts.



























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                            Originally posted by Alex View Post
                            I don't know who you think we are anymore Matt. But we finished 8th in the league. We can't really get a better caliber at the moment. We have to make do with the players we can get.
                            I think we get better players than Carroll and better players than we got last season.
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                              Well I've yet to see us sign anyone better. We are at a level, and we need to get out of it.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                                Well I've yet to see us sign anyone better. We are at a level, and we need to get out of it.
                                Well we signed Suarez at the same time we signed Carroll.

                                I think we could do better personally.
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