Andy Carroll

[Kenneth]

He deserves the chance to prove himself.

There were tons and tons of signs late in the season and at Euros that Andy finally started believing in himself and got the confidence back.

And what do we do, we throw all that away by publically stating we would entertain the loan/sale idea without even trying to fit him in the system when Rodgers openly said all players will get the chance.

Clearly not all..

He deserves what? What is this sentimentality based on exactly? We should try and make do with a player that the manager doesn't think is ideal because the lad 'deserves' it. I think our fans secretly enjoy mediocrity sometimes.

[Lecter]

We paid £35m on the basis of one good season in the PL. In a season and a half with Liverpool, Carroll has (unfortunately) done nothing to justify half of that fee.

There are far cheaper 'impact subs' on the market.

The cost of bringing in those impact subs has to be weighed against the cost of letting Carroll go

It will cost us an arm and a leg to get rid of Carroll

Thats the problem I see at the club at the minute

there are players I'd be desperate to get rid of but in doing that we will have to offer financial incentives which dramatically reduce the cost benefit of letting them go

[Vermilion]

We paid £35m on the basis of one good season in the PL. In a season and a half with Liverpool, Carroll has (unfortunately) done nothing to justify half of that fee.

There are far cheaper 'impact subs' on the market.

Did we though, i thought it was based on us having 50mill burning a hole in our pocket.

[Mattshark]

We paid £35m on the basis of one good season in the PL. In a season and a half with Liverpool, Carroll has (unfortunately) done nothing to justify half of that fee.

There are far cheaper 'impact subs' on the market.

Half a good season!

No he hasn't and his up turn in form at the tail end of last season still left him as a very average player with poor technique and positional sense.

[Mostar]

I don't get why people don't get this. Unless Carroll is threatening to become the next Ian Rush in 6 months for Brendan Rodgers to 'see if he's worth keeping' then I would hazard Bredan has seen more of Carroll last year than any Liverpool fan (and that includes Mostar).
FSG + release of funds + Rodgers knows his **** = Carroll out now. You don't even need parenthesis to work this one out.

Coming up next week: Brendan puts his left shoe on before his right. In a clear statement to his wife on their wedding night he said he would always put the right boot on first, but within weeks he reneged on his promises.

I seriously doubt that and in fact I think most posters here have seen more of Carroll last year that BR.

[Rigadon]

Such as?

Any striker that can get more than 4 goals a season and is cheaper than £35m.

[Tee]

Any striker that can get more than 4 goals a season and is cheaper than £35m.

Names dammit, give me some names of players who will be better than AC. And who will be subs.

[BigChief]

I seriously doubt that and in fact I think most posters here have seen more of Carroll last year that BR.

BR is a football professional. Some of them with OCD (Rafa, etc).

Seriously I think BR has seen more.

[Bender]

Names dammit, give me some names of players who will be better than AC. And who will be subs.

think he's referring to the chicken terriyaki and the meatball sub .....bound to make an impact

[Kenneth]

Half a good season!

No he hasn't and his up turn in form at the tail end of last season still left him as a very average player with poor technique and positional sense.

Quite. For most of the season he was slightly less effective than David Ngog. But because he ended the season being slightly less effective than Peter Crouch he's on the verge of greatness and the manager/club are mad for wanting rid.

[Tee]

Only a fool would fail to see the improvement in Carroll towards the end of last season. He looked a genuine threat and whilst I would sell him for anything upwards of £20m I would be loathed to see him shipped out on loan whilst we have no comparable alternative.

[CJ]

lets face it, Brenners has seen carrol unless he has walked round with his eyes closed and his fingers in his ears going nananananana.

I am sure that brendo watched a fair amount of football in this country. He probably even watched us seeing we had to play them twice.

and the issue with he said " i give all the players a chance to prove in training" all managers say that and all managers tend to ship out people they dont want quick smart if they can.

grow up!!!

[CJ]

and lec you had no issues when the club said to Raul M that we would give him a pay rise if he did ok then with new owners we decided not too.
thats business i recall you saying.

[Lecter]

Unfortunately for Brendan I think Carroll is going to make life difficult to get rid of him

[Mattshark]

Only a fool would fail to see the improvement in Carroll towards the end of last season. He looked a genuine threat and whilst I would sell him for anything upwards of £20m I would be loathed to see him shipped out on loan whilst we have no comparable alternative.

I thought he just looked better than before, he was a very average still, still lacking enough of a goal threat and still had atrocious movement and game intelligence.

He is far to one dimensional and he is not going to ever be a world beater imo.