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Sullivan: Carroll snubbed Hammers
David Sullivan says West Ham had agreed a deal with Liverpool for Andy Carroll, but that the striker refused a move to Upton Park.
Carroll's future at Liverpool has been uncertain following the appointment of Brendan Rodgers as manager and he has been linked with several rival Premier League clubs.
West Ham were among those to show an interest and a season-long loan deal with a view to a permanent £17million transfer had been lined up by the promoted club.
Sullivan says the proposed deal was 'terribly expensive' for the Hammers, but he was prepared to back Allardyce, who wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis to supply the crosses for Carroll.
"I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already," co-owner Sullivan told the Daily Mirror. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him.
"Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play.
"We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser.
"We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up.
"We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come.
"It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it.
"But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that."
The England international is reported to favour a return to former club Newcastle United, but Sullivan doubts Carroll will head back to St James' Park.
He added: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages.
"This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?"dave of mutilation
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Ask your mate where he thinks Carroll lives???Originally posted by tsb View Post
Also what does he mean by "boarded up"???Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Brendan Rodgers has reiterated his expectation that Daniel Agger will remain at Liverpool, but admitted Andy Carroll does not fit his "Plan A".
Agger has two years remaining on his contract but has been the subject of two serious enquiries from Premier League champions Manchester City.
Despite Rodgers admitting a week ago that "every player has his price and we will see where it goes" he insists Agger is one he intends to keep.
"For me there has been no big change. The first point is we don't want to sell him," said Rodgers.
"Secondly, I believe he will be a player who will thrive in this way of working and thirdly he doesn't want to leave - which is a great help as well.
"He is a top player and I want to keep him here. Over the last couple of months we have been able to sell the project and vision to a number of senior players.
"They are very happy to move forward with it and I would expect Daniel to be the same.
"He made that clear in the very first conversation we had that he wanted to be part of our revolution here in terms of moving forward and he hasn't wavered from that in any single way whatsoever.
"Other reported clubs have made bids for him, which is natural, because he is a top player.
"But for us nothing has changed: he doesn't want to go and we don't want to sell him."
The situation is different for Carroll, who has attracted interest from former club Newcastle and Premier League rivals West Ham.
It is clear he will not be first choice as he does not fit into Rodgers' passing and pressing gameplan which he developed so well at former club Swansea and has now introduced at Anfield.
And while he still believes the England international can be effective for them he suggested it would be a while before he changed his principles and went for the alternative option.
"He knows where he stands. He is an important part of our group and that is how I see it at the moment," added the 39-year-old.
"If you are a team that puts crosses in and are firing them in from all angles he is a great player in the box.
"Naturally his height and his power gives him that strength but if you play a different style it is that much more difficult.
"Most managers have a way of playing and a Plan A in terms of the way they want to play.
"I will always try to make Plan A better before I go to Plan B. If trying to make Plan A better doesn't work then we go to Plan B and then probably Plan C.
"Andy's strengths are someone else's weakness but we have that flexibility in the group and that will serve us well going forward.
"There is no doubt he is happy to be here, which is important, and of course every player wants to play but there are not many players here you can promise will play.
"All he wants to do is work hard every day in training and hopefully get an opportunity at some stage to show his form.
"If that doesn't happen then he'll be like every other player, because they want to play games.
"He is concentrating on being here and we will see what develops."
Rodgers said there was nothing imminent in terms of players leaving, either on loan or permanently, but he hopes to learn in the next 48 hours whether his next two transfer targets will be arriving.
He has been strongly linked with loan deals for Barcelona winger Cristian Tello, 21, and Real Madrid midfielder Nuri Sahin, 23, but would not confirm those were the players in his immediate thoughts.
"We hope in the next couple of days we'll have one or two coming in," he said.
"Hopefully in the next 48 hours we will find out."_____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!Comment
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Maybe he was bored, he hasn't been playing much_____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!Comment
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Maybe.Comment
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If he gets bored he just pays someone to come and play table tennis or pool with himOriginally posted by red g View Post
Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Only way Carroll can fit in as first choice is if Suarez is moved out wide, which isn't happening.Comment
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Doesn't he live in Blundellsands?Comment
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Yes, I'm from there but living in Manchester these days. Lecter is from that neck of the woods too so would be able to confirm I think. Sure it's bollocks.Comment
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Suarez has a blue roof
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