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Yep and the financial failure of Scotland's attempts at colonies is the reason Scotland chose to join the UK.Originally posted by Assassin View PostComment
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Poor decision for a nation that had the majority of the oilfileds on the UK continental shelf.Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
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none of those are real countries tho so don't see what the problem isi own everton fans on the internet....that's what i doComment
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See Trappattoni has gone from Ireland. God I hope they get Roy Keane in so he's off tele. :FingersCrossed:The times they are a changin'.Comment
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well to be honest mate, there is an answer to this, **** off when a tournament comes round. I honestly don't think 'as an outsider' your words, has any right to comment on what we as a country do to celebrate our national team. No more than I could comment on your country. If its so bad then go away for a few weeks, seriously.Originally posted by Nigey View PostAlways borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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Come on Bob, it may not be diplomatic of the cat but he lives here, of course he can have a view and voice his opinion..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Well you could comment if you've seen it from the inside. That's called context. I never said it was unlivable during world cup time here, just that I don't like general nationalist ****.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostAre we winning?Comment
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Ok of course he can comment, but the fact that he can find some people living in the country they were born, flying the flag offensive to him is to be honest not worth any serious consideration. He chose to come to the country to live and very welcome I'm sure he's been made to be. There is an undercurrent of stuff that Nigella posts about nationalism and the english in particular that is starting to wind me up. Its a constant. His usual jibe is to call me xenophobic. Our country is so much better for having people from all over the world living or visiting us. But they come for a reason I guess? Whats the ideal the whole of europe is the same? Each country should be proud of their heritage, its what marks us apart and makes us unique.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostAlways borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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Laughable that it's taken the nation three years to realise, three years to catch up with us. They all said we were mad.
Roy Hodgson’s safety-first approach is inherently dangerous
Matt Hughes
September 11 2013 11:09AM
Much of the pre-match talk in Kiev’s Olympic Stadium on Monday night centred upon England’s exploits in another Olympic Stadium 16 years earlier, for understandable reasons. “That night in Rome,” as Baddiel and Skinner put it in Three Lions 98 has been immortalised in England’s footballing culture for reasons other than the comedians’ shameless cash-in.
Roy Hodgson was in Rome that evening – he was working as a pundit for Sky TV and also helped translate Glenn Hoddle’s press conferences – to witness an England performance of maturity and substance that took them to the World Cup finals in good spirits.
The visitors’ tactical discipline and composure was such that Italy seemed to lose heart of long before the end, and with slightly more composure from Ian Wright England could even have nicked it at the end.
Back in Kiev on Monday Hodgson declared he would be delighted with the same result – and seemed genuinely happy with the goalless draw last night – but the comparisons should end with the manager’s reactions.
Whereas Hoddle’s side succeeded in obtaining the result they knew would secure their place at the World Cup Hodgson’s side have done little more than stay in contention for next year’s finals.
And that is before we even come to analysing the respective performances. In Rome England competed as equals with an Italian side containing such world class players as Christian Vieiri, Gianfranco Zola, Filippo Inzaghi, Alessandro Nesta, Paulo Maldini and Fabio Cannavaro, a stark contrast to the grim determination required to cling on against a very ordinary Ukraine.
The unsettlingly truth is that England’s hard work starts now, or at least in their final two group matches against Montenegro and Ukraine next month, both of which they will probably be required to win to secure passage to Brazil.
Hodgson will hope to have Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge and Danny Welbeck in both games at Wembley to add much-needed pace and creativity to his forward line, but there is no guarantee they will provide the fluency so evidently missing in Kiev.
Hodgson was on safer ground when professing his pleasure that England had shown themselves capable of producing two very different performances in the space of four days – taking Moldova to the cleaners before parking the bus in Ukraine – but again there is a huge caveat.
Throughout this qualifying campaign England have yet to show any hint of expansiveness against competent opponents, which they will surely need to at Wembley, and were second best in both their draws against Ukraine and in Poland. There is little reason – other than blind optimism or residual nationalistic arrogance – for assuming this will suddenly change next month, meaning that the uncertainty of the play-offs or even worse, is a genuine possibility.
Most worrying is the feeling that England are regressing rather than progressing under Hodgson, although in mitigation the repeated loss of key personnel has hindered his cause. Sweden and Ukraine were both beaten in his second and third competitive matches in charge at last summer’s European Championship, results which have not been replicated since.
Hodgson’s caution is certainly a concern, as by prioritising an unbeaten run he has reached a situation where England must win their last two matches. A most reluctant gambler has unwittingly been dragged into a high-stakes card game.
As well underestimate the importance of public opinion – he seems to overlook the fact that he is managing England, rather than Finland or Fulham – Hodgson’s safety-first approach is inherently dangerous.
The problem with fostering a culture of low expectations, is that when you fail to meet them there is nowhere to go.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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To be honest though Bob, there's much about the way English people support their national team that I find offensive too, and I'm English.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
I don't know if we're unique in the way we support our national team, I think probably we're not and I'd feel much the same in many other countries too. But the flag-waving and tribal ****e pisses me off.
I like it when England do well in tournaments because there's a sense of community, people talk to each other, it's a shared experience. But there's a definite downside too and since England don't do well at tournaments very often at all, the upside is usually more than outweighed.
In short, my view is that England is fine, but Ingurland is utter ****e.
Now, what country do you recommend I visit while tournaments are on?
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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I tend to think that a lot of people come here for the attraction of London, and all the monarchy stuff. Most of them haven't got a clue about the culture, or they think they know about it. England has a massive imperial and colonial past and that's what attracts people to come here first.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
Not that it attracted me in the first place. I came for different reasons. But I love it here and not for the reasons that most people come here for. But that's for another debate.
Roy Hodgson eh? Or do you prefer debating about Rafa Benitez?
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Let's all go to Mauritius.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostTo be honest though Bob, there's much about the way English people support their national team that I find offensive too, and I'm English.
I don't know if we're unique in the way we support our national team, I think probably we're not and I'd feel much the same in many other countries too. But the flag-waving and tribal ****e pisses me off.
I like it when England do well in tournaments because there's a sense of community, people talk to each other, it's a shared experience. But there's a definite downside too and since England don't do well at tournaments very often at all, the upside is usually more than outweighed.
In short, my view is that England is fine, but Ingurland is utter ****e.
Now, what country do you recommend I visit while tournaments are on?Oh I don't know.Comment
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