Joe Allen [Sold]

[Neil Young]

So he should do it like you chose to, yeah?

[barnes10]

of course not. but if that's the reason he's below par then I don't think he'll be below par for long is my point. if he's poor for the rest of the season and its still because he's a new dad then Id suggest its a weak excuse...

[James P]

bit harsh... why so? I slept in the spare room for about 3 weeks at 2/3 months then took over the 11/12pm feed (wife slept 8-3) I think and all was pretty quickly more or less back to normal and I wasn't tired. If I managed to negotiate that then I'm sure Allen can do so given what his job requires. He only works half days mid-week anyway so has plenty of time with the kid...

So he should do it like you chose to, yeah?

What he said.

How normal was it for your wife to have to go to bed at 8pm and get up at 3am? I'm not criticising you if it's your choice, just don't presume that it's everyone else's. I've got a three month old (as well as a six year old and three year old) and I do the 'dream feed' at about 11pm, and do all the night duties (she normally sleeps through until 8am, thank God), because I know that isn't anything like as full on as my wife has to deal with during the day with all three plus school runs and so forth. I'm permanently knackered, and I don't have to train all week and run 10k every weekend like Allen does.

It's his choice how he involves himself in bringing up his kid, and if it impacts on his form then the manager will deal with it.

[yamiedo]

It's easy to judge players too soon but players that were written off early in the season have generally come back stronger. Enrique, Gerrard, Henderson, even Downing is really fighting for his place in the team now.

I've no doubt Joe Allen will keep fighting and probably surprise the odd few who have mis-judged him. I think Brendan is choosing players with the right mentality. I've no doubt that Allen has that.

[Mostar]

Joe Allen is a good footballer and early in the season he was our best player so clearly has the skills to play at this level.

His form dipped later on but with the exception of Suarez most of our players have been very inconsistant.

He still needs more time to rest as BR played him non-stop and imo his confidence also has been shaken, which affected his game as he is trying to impress little too much.

He will bounce back.

[Cormack74]

Maybe he's adequate as a squad player but to have paid £15m for a squaddie suggests we haven't learnt from the Downing/Henderson debacle of the previous year.

[RedSince1964]

Maybe he's adequate as a squad player but to have paid £15m for a squaddie suggests we haven't learnt from the Downing/Henderson debacle of the previous year.

Maybe we should give him more time to play in a more settled, experienced mid field rather than slate him as we have done with other players.

Im sure he'll be a totally different player then as he has showed glimpses of at the start of the season. Sure, I believe he's a little light weight and easily knocked off the ball at times but hey, look at Lucas when he first arrived and look how he's improved dramatically now.

I personally think that with a couple of quality players next season along with the up and coming talent we have in the squad at this time, I believe there's really exciting times ahead

[Exiled_red]

Joe Allen is a good footballer and early in the season he was our best player so clearly has the skills to play at this level.

His formed dipped later on but with the exception of Suarez most of our players have been very inconsistant.

He still needs more time to rest as BR played him non-stop and imo his confidence also has been shaken, which affected his game as he is trying to impress little too much.

He will bounce back.

Also the Olympics didn't help with this, he's a young player who played a full season last year, then the olympics and played a full first half of this season. A break could do him good.

[Mostar]

Also the Olympics didn't help with this, he's a young player who played a full season last year, then the olympics and played a full first half of this season. A break could do him good.

Aye.

Some players can continue to perform well without any breaks like Suarez but he is definitely an exception.

[Cormack74]

Maybe we should give him more time to play in a more settled, experienced mid field rather than slate him as we have done with other players.

Im sure he'll be a totally different player then as he has showed glimpses of at the start of the season. Sure, I believe he's a little light weight and easily knocked off the ball at times but hey, look at Lucas when he first arrived and look how he's improved dramatically now.

I personally think that with a couple of quality players next season along with the up and coming talent we have in the squad at this time, I believe there's really exciting times ahead

Not aware I've ever slated him, if you look at any of my posts on any player it's not my style.

But I don't think he's especially good (I said so before he signed so it's not a knee jerk reaction to the last few weeks).

He might have a role to play in European games where he has more time on the ball so I'm sure he'll do a job if we progress in the EL.

But I don't believe he's worth £15m and I can't but wonder who we might have got in his place for that kind of outlay.

[Alex]

Not aware I've ever slated him, if you look at any of my posts on any player it's not my style.

But I don't think he's especially good (I said so before he signed so it's not a knee jerk reaction to the last few weeks).

He might have a role to play in European games where he has more time on the ball so I'm sure he'll do a job if we progress in the EL.

But I don't believe he's worth £15m and I can't but wonder who we might have got in his place for that kind of outlay.

[Cormack74]

For me slating = profanities and unflattering comparisons.

Don't think a humble "not especially good" can be treated as such

[Red_Polo]

I wouldn't have said you slated him either, but from your definition I think Downing ought to count as an unflattering comparison

Neither he nor Hendo have hit the levels Allen showed in a run of games. I don't think we can say it was a poor value signing from what we've seen so far.

[Fosterbloke]

Neither he nor Hendo have hit the levels Allen showed in a run of games. I don't think we can say it was a poor value signing from what we've seen so far.

I think Allen will return to being excellent when we have a more balanced side.

[danperkins]

For me slating = profanities and unflattering comparisons.

Don't think a humble "not especially good" can be treated as such

Allen hasn't been great but hopefully he can return to his Swansea/Early season form. He is better than he has showed for LFC but he has to start producing.... and quickly.