Newcastle United

[Scratch]

Seen it implied in 'news' items that Milan were aware of the issue prior to selling him, and Newcastle are seeking monies back from them, but not sure if it is substantiated or not.

[Angryred]

Najh, I would be surprised if Newcastle didn't do their due diligence on him as agents are well connected.

[Assassin]

FIFA have just made the ban worldwide effective immediately

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[Sus]

Looks like this option might be banned in the premier league, at least on an interim basis - from The Athletic

Premier League clubs to vote on banning loan moves between related parties in January
By David Ornstein
Nov 9, 2023


Premier League sides will vote at the next shareholders’ meeting on a proposal to fast-track a ban on loan moves for players into England’s top flight between associated clubs in the January transfer window.

They are recommending this temporary measure to protect the integrity of the competition and allow time to agree a longer-term solution.

If approved on November 21, it will prevent potential deals such a possible loan switch for Ruben Neves from Al Hilal to Newcastle United — both majority-owned by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) — from happening in January 2024.

The step has not been specifically designed to block Newcastle from signing Neves, rather it is part of a wider ongoing discussion about associated party transactions, including front-of-shirt sponsorship.

But amid growing concerns among a number of its 20 members, the Premier League will endorse this significant rule change, even if it is only on an interim basis at first.

The vote will require at least a two-thirds majority (14 clubs) for the amended regulation to be adopted.

At present there is nothing stopping Premier League players being sold in one window and the team they join then agreeing a loan or permanent move back to the division with a side operating under the same ownership when the market re-opens, provided it is deemed fair market value.

Some teams want the rules to extend to permanent transfers and cover two windows after the initial transaction takes place — and this is likely to form part of the ongoing dialogue.

Portugal international Neves joined the Saudi Pro League club from Wolverhampton Wanderers in June but the 10-month suspension of Sandro Tonali for breaching rules on gambling has sparked speculation Newcastle could move for him as a temporary replacement in January.

The Premier League defines a related party as having “material influence over the club or (being) an entity in the same group of companies as the club”.

It says they judge such a party on the “substance of the relationship and not merely the legal form”.

Newcastle and Al Hilal fall into that category, as do Manchester City, Chelsea and many other Premier League sides which operate as part of multi-club models.

[Kenneth]

If they can get 14 clubs to vote for it. How many dodgy owners are there in the PL?

[Sus]

Yep fair enough, but not that many who are part of multi club groups, I don't think

[Cerbie]

Yep fair enough, but not that many who are part of multi club groups, I don't think

No, but a few who might be open to favourable loan terms in future or other sweeteners to vote for the status quo.

The votes definitely need to be made public.

[Sus]

Will be an interesting vote for sure

[Cerbie]

If they can get 14 clubs to vote for it. How many dodgy owners are there in the PL?

Only 13 voted for the ban. Would be interesting to see who was against it and monitor their funding and activity over the next few seasons. It stinks.

[Scratch]

Can we hazard a guess at who the 7 clubs might be?

City
Crystal Palace
Newcastle

Those are the obvious ones, so who else might be in there?

[Kenneth]

Sheffield Utd will defo be one. Chelsea, Brighton, Bournemouth, maybe. Multi club ownership is out of hand.

[Fivex]

Sheffield Utd will defo be one. Chelsea, Brighton, Bournemouth, maybe. Multi club ownership is out of hand.

Everton & Utd possibly.

[RichC]

Mancs will be against it with the potential hook up with Ratcliffe and owning Nice

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These are supposedly the clubs who voted against it: [ame="https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1727041274987807230"]https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1727041274987807230[/ame]