The Managerial Sack Race

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Ole's going nowhere. The board have backed him in the market he also has a knack for turning results around at just the right time when they're on a bad run, the guys a survivor, going nowhere.

The pundits are lining up to put the boot in now after the Young Boys defeat... the likes of Talk****e's Cunt(d)y giving it the 'sack him now and bring Conte in'... I'd rather Ole stayed as he can't get a tune out of last seasons' squad... let alone it's now got Ronaldo calling the shots in the changing room...

[~LFCHistory~]

The pundits are lining up to put the boot in now after the Young Boys defeat... the likes of Talk****e's Cunt(d)y giving it the 'sack him now and bring Conte in'... I'd rather Ole stayed as he can't get a tune out of last seasons' squad... let alone it's now got Ronaldo calling the shots in the changing room...

Aren't Utd undefeated in 17 league games or something ?? And even if they went on a bad run Ole will turn it around at just the right time and then go on a good run he's been doing it since he was appointed, the guys a scarlet pimpernel.
Wouldn't pay much attention to TalkSport it's the hub of kneejerk ****e. Yes Ole isn't good enough and they're just going tread water with him in charge subtly setting them back years but one bad result in the first CL game of the season proves nothing.

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Aren't Utd undefeated in 17 league games or something ?? And even if they went on a bad run Ole will turn it around at just the right time and then go on a good run he's been doing it since he was appointed, the guys a scarlet pimpernel.
Wouldn't pay much attention to TalkSport it's the hub of kneejerk ****e. Yes Ole isn't good enough and they're just going tread water with him in charge subtly setting them back years but one bad result in the first CL game of the season proves nothing.

Nah, they lost a few games in May. We spanked them for one.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Bielsa to leave next I reckon. I know Leeds are better than their league position suggests, but I think he's pushed the players as far as he can and they can't keep up their relentless, all action game, but Bielsa doesn't seem to want to change it to save the players.

Bielsa is a manager I just do not get. He gets lots of accolades yet has done the sum total of eff al in club football. Is 66 and his three years at Leeds is the longest he has lasted at any club outside of South America in the 1990s.

Less than two years at Bilbao.

A year at Marseilles. He quit blaming club management.

Two days, yes two days, at Lazio. He quit claing club management let him down by not signing players as quickly as he wanted. Bear in mind he was there only two days.


Lille. Signed at the end of May 2017. Was suspended after 13 games and fired in December.

Then joined Leeds in the summer of 2018. So winning the championship with them is his biggest bit of silverware from a managerial career lasting about 30 years. I get some of his tactical ideas may have seemed fresh and new in the 1990s and when he managed the national teams of Agentina and Chile, but generally great managers win something of note, especially if they have had a long career.


He sits on buckets and water coolers at lot though and never bothers to learn the language of the country he manages in.

He is like Hodgson but with less minor silverware.


Love to see someone kick that bucket out from under him so I could watch him flailing around like an overturned tortoise.

[~LFCHistory~]

Nah, they lost a few games in May. We spanked them for one.

Yeah you're right, no I remember the stat I heard was undefeated in the league away from home since January 2020, pretty sure that's right.

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Yeah you're right, no I remember the stat I heard was undefeated in the league away from home since January 2020, pretty sure that's right.

Yeah, they broke the records for undefeated away games.

Must be the most pointless records to break when you don't actually achieve anything on the back of it.

The team that previously held the record were the Arsenal invincibles.

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Yeah you're right, no I remember the stat I heard was undefeated in the league away from home since January 2020, pretty sure that's right.

Yes, they've got a new 'undefeated record' away from home but like you say, they'll have a few stinkers and then pull a result out of the bag to save Ole's job... before sliding back to mediocrity again. If it wasn't a pandemic, no fans and a **** load of injuries, they'd have finished outside the Top 4 last season. Perfect storm for us meant we were well off it from the Ev game... and other big hitters didn't find their flow either.

Even with Ronaldo, Utd supporters I know aren't getting carried away as they know on paper they easily have a top 4 squad... but they haven't got a top manager to develop it. If Ronaldo gets an long-term injury, the wind will disappear out of their sails quicker than a member of the Royal family leaving their local Pizza Hut...

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Yes, they've got a new 'undefeated record' away from home but like you say, they'll have a few stinkers and then pull a result out of the bag to save Ole's job... before sliding back to mediocrity again. If it wasn't a pandemic, no fans and a **** load of injuries, they'd have finished outside the Top 4 last season. Perfect storm for us meant we were well off it from the Ev game... and other big hitters didn't find their flow either.

Even with Ronaldo, Utd supporters I know aren't getting carried away as they know on paper they easily have a top 4 squad... but they haven't got a top manager to develop it. If Ronaldo gets an long-term injury, the wind will disappear out of their sails quicker than a member of the Royal family leaving their local Pizza Hut...

Yep it was a perfect combination of outside factors like our injury crisis and Chelsea appointing a rookie like Lampard which handed Utd 2nd place last season which in a way is great because it keeps Ole in a job but this season with us City and Chelsea at full strength means Utd won't have it quite as easy they did last season.

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Seems to be some kind of media campaign against steve bruce cant see him lasting long

If he does get sacked he'll get another job soon enough

[Doc_Piptorious]

If he does get sacked he'll get another job soon enough

Yep he is one of the unflushables that will keep getting high paid jobs no matter how many times he is shown to be pretty useless.


How all these turds keep getting jobs on the basis of being a supposedly "safe pair of hands" is beyond me.

A lot of smaller clubs would be better off gambling on a younger up and coming manager that is doing ok in a lower league than these rejects that just go club to club and underwhelm over and over. Probably a lot cheaper getting the younger manager too.

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Yep he is one of the unflushables that will keep getting high paid jobs no matter how many times he is shown to be pretty useless.


How all these turds keep getting jobs on the basis of being a supposedly "safe pair of hands" is beyond me.

A lot of smaller clubs would be better off gambling on a younger up and coming manager that is doing ok in a lower league than these rejects that just go club to club and underwhelm over and over. Probably a lot cheaper getting the younger manager too.

I find it annoying how the likes of Allerdyce, Hughes and Bruce keep getting PL jobs despite having achieved nothing

[ChesterDave]

I find it annoying how the likes of Allerdyce, Hughes and Bruce keep getting PL jobs despite having achieved nothing

As it happens, I happen to have these two posts by yourself bookmarked for future reference. I'm sure now the stats will have changed but still feels like it will be near that 10% mark

Everyone employs him, I read the other day only Fat Sam has managed more PL clubs

PL clubs managed
7 - Sam Alladyce (Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn, West Ham, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Everton)
5 - Harry Redknapp (West Ham, Portsmouth Tottenham, QPR, Southampton)
5 - Mark Hughes (Blackburn, Man City, Fulham, QPR, Stoke)
5 - Roy Hodgson (Blackburn, Fulham, Liverpool , West Brom, Crystal Palace)
4 - David Moyes (Everton, Man Utd, Sunderland, West Ham)
4 - Ron Atkinson (Aston Villa, Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest)
4 - Steve Bruce (Birmingham, Wigan, Sunderland Hull)
4 - Graeme Souness (Liverpool, Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)

Apparently those 8 managers make up 10% of all managerial appointments in the PL since it started in 1992

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As it happens, I happen to have these two posts by yourself bookmarked for future reference. I'm sure now the stats will have changed but still feels like it will be near that 10% mark

Yeah a number of those guys annoy me, hopefully quite a few seem to be retired or at least not getting jobs anymore. So I suspect that number has dropped now (thankfully). Big Sam has extended his lead now to 8 clubs with his spell at West Brom, which could make him difficult to catch with only Bruce (now 5), Moyes and possibly Hughes still in the game...

I sometimes imagine the PL chairmen are like kids collecting Panini stickers: Got Moyes, got Redknapp, got Allerdyce, need Hughes...

[Rigadon]

I sometimes imagine the PL chairmen are like kids collecting Panini stickers: Got Moyes, got Redknapp, got Allerdyce, need Hughes...

[dizzycat]

Why isn't Rafa on that list ?