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[Fosterbloke]

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So the 2nd leg home team get the advantage?

[ChesterDave]

Can't remember what the rule was. Thought it was always away goals after extra time so the home side always got the extra 30 minutes in front of their own fans

[Angryred]

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ya can tell Baracelona that won't won't matter against us as whatever they score against us, we will do one more at home!

[Irishnev]

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I think the away goals was an excellent rule - sorry to see it go

[Kenneth]

I really don’t like penalty shootouts. They’re just a gimmick and not a fitting way to decide a game of football, particularly an important one. This will lead to more of the so I don’t approve.

[RedReet]

I really don’t like penalty shootouts. They’re just a gimmick and not a fitting way to decide a game of football, particularly an important one. This will lead to more of the so I don’t approve.

Ach come on? You are taking contrary to a new level.

Not a fitting way for fans or players? For neutrals there is nothing better (especially if it's a **** match and you feel you deserve some reward) and as hateful as it is when involved, the feeling of winning is incredible (2005 )

[Kenneth]

Well my argument would be along the lines that it’s not football. It’s a contrived mini game. The whole premise of competitive football is to establish which team is most effective at playing football, not the bonus mini game. Penalty shootouts are barely more relevant as an representation of the game than a sprint race decider would be. They’ve been around since the 70s so we’ve all grown up with them, so we don’t think about how silly they are. The more games determined by the playing football bit the better imo.

Having said that, sprint race deciders would be pretty cool actually.

[Fivex]

They should all line up at opposite sides of the pitch and do the worm to the other side.

First team to have their entire XI worm over the opposition goal line wins.

[Saveloy]

They should all line up at opposite sides of the pitch and do the worm to the other side.

First team to have their entire XI worm over the opposition goal line wins.

Sounds good. But we should weigh that up against other options.

Crab football?

Spinning round an upturned stick and then trying to shoot straight?

Having to give original, interesting and insightful commentary over a pre-recorded game?

[ChesterDave]

10 minutes each way Zorb football.

[Fivex]

Football and spoon race

[frank the tank]

Can't remember what the rule was. Thought it was always away goals after extra time so the home side always got the extra 30 minutes in front of their own fans

Nope.

It was away goals at the end of the 2nd leg. So if you drew 2-2 away from home and then 1-1 at home, you'd win the tie after 90mins of the second leg.

[RedReet]

Well my argument would be along the lines that it’s not football. It’s a contrived mini game. The whole premise of competitive football is to establish which team is most effective at playing football, not the bonus mini game. Penalty shootouts are barely more relevant as an representation of the game than a sprint race decider would be. They’ve been around since the 70s so we’ve all grown up with them, so we don’t think about how silly they are. The more games determined by the playing football bit the better imo.

Having said that, sprint race deciders would be pretty cool actually.

In theory, if one team is 'more effective' at playing football, then it shouldn't go to penalties. That's also the point of e/t, to give one team further opportunity to prove they are better. If they still don't take it, well the match has to be decided some way, unless we go back down the replay route or start sharing trophies again.

Is goal difference or away goals a better way of separating equal teams? If we beat Man City 1-0 and United beat West Brom 2-0 to overtake us on goal difference, does that make them better than us? Winners and losers have to be decided somehow and I refuse to believe that there is a single football fan out there who doesn't enjoy watching penalties.

[Kenneth]

In theory, if one team is 'more effective' at playing football, then it shouldn't go to penalties. That's also the point of e/t, to give one team further opportunity to prove they are better. If they still don't take it, well the match has to be decided some way, unless we go back down the replay route or start sharing trophies again.

Is goal difference or away goals a better way of separating equal teams? If we beat Man City 1-0 and United beat West Brom 2-0 to overtake us on goal difference, does that make them better than us? Winners and losers have to be decided somehow and I refuse to believe that there is a single football fan out there who doesn't enjoy watching penalties.

I don’t really understand this. I’d You are talking about a league then it’s all about the position at the end of the season. And goal difference is a good measure once everyone has played everyone.

Of course, there will always be stalemates that need resolving, but that should be via parameters relating to playing football where possible. Away goals reduced the reliance on contrived mini games so was a net positive. It’s odd that they are going to remove it just as crowds start coming back and making a difference again, but kept it when teams were playing in empty soulless stadia.

And whether people enjoy it is neither here nor there to me. Some people enjoy a blast of Eye of the Tiger when their team scores, but those people can burn in hell.

[RedReet]

I don’t really understand this. I’d You are talking about a league then it’s all about the position at the end of the season. And goal difference is a good measure once everyone has played everyone.

Of course, there will always be stalemates that need resolving, but that should be via parameters relating to playing football where possible. Away goals reduced the reliance on contrived mini games so was a net positive. It’s odd that they are going to remove it just as crowds start coming back and making a difference again, but kept it when teams were playing in empty soulless stadia.

And whether people enjoy it is neither here nor there to me. Some people enjoy a blast of Eye of the Tiger when their team scores, but those people can burn in hell.

I was highlighting that winners and losers have to be decided somehow and it doesn't always reflect the best team. I tried simplifying an example by using one match, but there are other ways of looking at it. United putting 7 or 8 away against someone like Southampton to bloat their GD, doesn't necessarily mean they were the best team over the other 37 games.

An we are consumers of the product and ultimately are paying to be entertained. It's foolish imo to dismiss people's enjoyment.