Memphis Depay

[red g]

****ing whingers. We've signed a striker that excelled at the World Cup, has scored a decent number of goals in an utterly **** side AND suits our style of play. We got in there early and he's not even 20 yet.

If he scores 10 next season it will be a job well done but if he bangs them in then I'm sure all this ****e will be forgotten about.

Besides, Depay might be **** for Utd like Di Maria is. Or he might sulk or tell LvG to go do one. Yeah he's a talent but there's plenty of them out there.

Fully expect us to sell Sterling and then gazump Everton for Lennon 10m+ quid.....that will show them we are still a force to be reckoned with

[kev776]

Not fussed about this signing, we have much more urgent areas to address.

[Pablo]

Not fussed about this signing, we have much more urgent areas to address.

Our main area of improvement is adding goals to the team. He's scored 27 goals this season so far. I'd have said that was addressing an urgent area.

[Glenn Hysen]

Well, its a bit unrealistic to come into a thread about a player we've been linked with who has joined our biggest rivals, and expect everything to be all happy clappy now, isn't it?

I didn't expect everything to be all happy clappy. It's not funny and maybe we ****ed up but I don't expect that much negativity.

[danperkins]

I didn't expect everything to be all happy clappy. It's not funny and maybe we ****ed up but I don't expect that much negativity.

Sign of the times mate, teams not played well and things have not gone to plan.. a lot of the supporters are pissed off.

As regards Depay, i'm not too bothered as we were never going to get him anyways.

[The_weatherman]

I didn't expect everything to be all happy clappy. It's not funny and maybe we ****ed up but I don't expect that much negativity.

It's fine if we miss out some targets, but there seems to be a theme were we constantly miss out on top players and the deals all have it in common that we drag them out over months. Salah, Henrihk M., Costa, Konoplienka, Willian and Depay.

It didn't happen last summer, which was the only summer we didn't try to sign top quality but it also the only summer where we were loaded and in the CL. If this isn't ineptidue I don't know what is and we shouldn't accept it and rationalise away at every turn.

[danperkins]

It's fine if we miss out some targets, but there seems to be a theme were we constantly miss out on top players and the deals all have it in common that we drag them out over months. Salah, Henrihk M., Costa, Konoplienka, Willian and Depay.

It didn't happen last summer, which was the only summer we didn't try to sign top quality but it also the only summer where we were loaded and in the CL. If this isn't ineptidue I don't know what is and we shouldn't accept it and rationalise away at every turn.

And Sanchez

[Doc_Piptorious]

The second most successful British club of all time by a mile...? currently, 9th biggest club in the world. I guess it depends on the scope of the tier.

Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that we are second tier and we can only attract players like Carroll, Downing, Markovic etc...we still pay over the odds. So not only are we setting our sights low, but we're also overpaying.

The previous transfer committee was a cluster**** and this current one, I don't agree with their strategy and their approach. That's my opinion.

Don't think there can really be much argument against us being a second tier club in England at present. Our average league finishing position over the last decade does not lie and if you look at us over the past five seasons then our average finishing position is even worse.

I would regard the top tier in England as being the clubs who regularly finish in the top four and who more often than not play in the CL.

We finished in the top four once in the past five seasons, and this season looks likely to be yet another season outside the top four.

Yes we have a fantastic history, yes we are the second best club in England in terms of silverware, but the better players in the here and now will be more interested in clubs who can pay them a lot or money whilst offering a good chance of silverware/CL footy than in what Liverpool FC did in the past.

[Nicey]

Every Team cannot sign every player there will be a mix up, a settling down and there will be still some real talent available, Similar to the Klopp situation, not every player will get there preferred move, I sense heads have dropped lately understandably amongst supporters, things are not as bleak and people might think . This season technically we are competing for 4th with just 3 games to go.

Realistically that has to be the minimum requirement in a Lg that includes Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. I suspect teams will randomly drop in and out the top 4. It would unrealistic to demand top 4, we can demand we are competing for top 4 right down to the last day, but anything more than that is unrealistic at this stage that the club finds itself in now

[tanner]

The second most successful British club of all time by a mile...? currently, 9th biggest club in the world. I guess it depends on the scope of the tier.

Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that we are second tier and we can only attract players like Carroll, Downing, Markovic etc...we still pay over the odds. So not only are we setting our sights low, but we're also overpaying.

The previous transfer committee was a cluster**** and this current one, I don't agree with their strategy and their approach. That's my opinion.

We're definitely a second tier club in the Premier League when it comes to the standard of players we can attract. Unfortunately where we are as a club in relation to our fanbase and history, has no relevance during negotiations when one of the current top 4 clubs are also interested.

I agree with the rest of the post.

[The_weatherman]

Every Team cannot sign every player there will be a mix up, a settling down and there will be still some real talent available, Similar to the Klopp situation, not every player will get there preferred move, I sense heads have dropped lately understandably amongst supporters, things are not as bleak and people might think . This season technically we are competing for 4th with just 3 games to go.

Realistically that has to be the minimum requirement in a Lg that includes Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. I suspect teams will randomly drop in and out the top 4. It would unrealistic to demand top 4, we can demand we are competing for top 4 right down to the last day, but anything more than that is unrealistic at this stage that the club finds itself in now

No-one is expecting us to sign every player. But every time we go into a long pursuit of a top player, we lose out. Simple as that. We have no problem signing the B players, where we continually overpay for them and often against no or little competition.

There are just too many things going wrong, recruitment is just one **** up after another with no strategy, on the field we look good in patches but also very bad in patches, we show little progress and we are doing the contracts in the same manner as we handle our transfers, drag it out and create distractions. We are not creating a enjoyable work environment.

Our manager speaks about title challenges and top four finishes but the fans get lambasted for having too high expectations, which we get told we have every year but I know not a single Liverpool fan, online or otherwise, who thinks we are winning the league or even challenging for it.

But if we get concerned about our haphazard progress or lack of it, inept Chief Exec. or anything else we are not good fans or impatient or unrealistic. Well what is the common expectation then? At what point is OK to doubt Ayre or anyone else? Who I'm not sure about and never have been, wasn't his previous football job at Huddersfield where he was hounded out?

Sorry, False9, this is not aimed at you Got carried away

[Doc_Piptorious]

Every Team cannot sign every player there will be a mix up, a settling down and there will be still some real talent available, Similar to the Klopp situation, not every player will get there preferred move, I sense heads have dropped lately understandably amongst supporters, things are not as bleak and people might think . This season technically we are competing for 4th with just 3 games to go.

Realistically that has to be the minimum requirement in a Lg that includes Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. I suspect teams will randomly drop in and out the top 4. It would unrealistic to demand top 4, we can demand we are competing for top 4 right down to the last day, but anything more than that is unrealistic at this stage that the club finds itself in now

So we are one of the clubs hoping that one of the regular top four teams have a bad season so we can have a crack at taking their spot.

Pretty much describes a second tier team and as such it makes sense that we would miss out on some players when a club with a more established CL/Top four record (in recent years) goes after the same player.

All we can hope for in the short term is that we can buy smart/get lucky with how players/managers develop so that we can be in a position to push strongly for a top four slot a bit more often than we have done in recent times, and if we can manage that then maybe, just maybe, a few more tilts at the title will crop up along the way

[Yozza]

Not having a pop at BR in any way but what difference do you think having a name like (for example) a Klopp in charge would make in attracting out targets?

Would it really matter or is it down to £££ & Champions League?

[danperkins]

The second most successful British club of all time by a mile...? currently, 9th biggest club in the world. I guess it depends on the scope of the tier.

Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that we are second tier and we can only attract players like Carroll, Downing, Markovic etc...we still pay over the odds. So not only are we setting our sights low, but we're also overpaying.

The previous transfer committee was a cluster**** and this current one, I don't agree with their strategy and their approach. That's my opinion.

Sure look at AC Milan. Huge name with a ridiculous history and pedigree, they are also second tier these days....in fact their in an even worse state than us. Football moves so quickly these days.

We do seem to be a second tier club in mind of top players these days, big names are nice but we just need to address the balance in the side first.

[McDermotX]

Not having a pop at BR in any way but what difference do you think having a name like (for example) a Klopp in charge would make in attracting out targets?

Would it really matter or is it down to £££ & Champions League?

Not a huge difference IMO. Money, location and prospects are all ahead of who they'll work with.........albeit, prospects are certainly intertwined with whomever is in charge, and obviously certain managers can carry a charismatic appeal, but material aspects would be the main factor IMO.

I think Rafa and Klopp would encounter problems generally about the same if they were in charge. Certainly Rafa had firsthand experience of our methods in the past.