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  • Kenneth
    Pond Scum
    • May 2007
    • 65636

    #436
    Linesman flags for offside, almost everyone stops playing and Shelvey puts it past the keeper. VAR gives the goal.

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    • Buzzo
      Donald Buzzworth
      • Jun 2010
      • 67435

      #437
      Play to the whistle.

      You could stop playing on almost any incident to attempt to pressurise the ref.

      He was miles onside.
      Modifying post.

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      • Maxiedge
        Shankly
        • Jun 2007
        • 7769

        #438
        That was poor by SU even though linesman error. They know the rules, they have to keep playing. Think they would all take responsibility in the dressing room afterwards rather than blame external factors.

        On positive note, VAR rules out a blatant offside goal for Arsenal last night which would have been harsh on Brighton.

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        • Norbs
          Big Girl's Blouse
          • Jun 2007
          • 42637

          #439
          He was well away anyway, they couldn't catch him and thought they'd try and get offside.

          Bet they don't do that again in a hurry

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          • labourRed
            Paisley
            • Jun 2015
            • 13453

            #440
            Originally posted by Kenneth
            Linesman flags for offside, almost everyone stops playing and Shelvey puts it past the keeper. VAR gives the goal.

            https://streamja.com/o41L
            That's all on 100% SU. Wilder can cry all he likes about VAR, and people only do it when it goes against them.

            But the alternative here is the linesman flags a perfectly fine attack off. In his defence assistant reffing is the hardest to do, i'd say near impossible with any real degree of accuracy.

            Play to the whistle, its not hard... kids can do it. Wilder also said Newcastle did a number on them, that's when he should have stopped talking.

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            • Norbs
              Big Girl's Blouse
              • Jun 2007
              • 42637

              #441
              Originally posted by labourRed
              That's all on 100% SU. Wilder can cry all he likes about VAR, and people only do it when it goes against them.

              But the alternative here is the linesman flags a perfectly fine attack off. In his defence assistant reffing is the hardest to do, i'd say near impossible with any real degree of accuracy.

              Play to the whistle, its not hard... kids can do it. Wilder also said Newcastle did a number on them, that's when he should have stopped talking.
              Correct me if I'm wrong as I've watched on my mobile but isn't the linesman on the far side and don't the SU players stop before they even look across or are they responding to the 4th official on the near touchline? If they are then they could be forgiven for thinking the offside's been awarded

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              • S-RED
                Shankly
                • Mar 2008
                • 6929

                #442
                This is the reason VAR was bought in, a perfect example of technology correcting human error.

                Carroll onside
                Shelvey carries on playing
                SU decided they were reffing the game
                Lino ****ed up & was saved by VAR

                Imagine if it had been disallowed; Sheff U are only chasing one goal & could quite easily have scored & maybe even got a second; huge implications for both teams & other teams in the relegation scrap.

                Finally VAR worked !!!

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                • Kenneth
                  Pond Scum
                  • May 2007
                  • 65636

                  #443
                  Defenders have been playing to the flag since they were 6 years old. An offside flag has equalled a whistle for 100 years. The idea that this change is no big deal, just play to the whistle, is clearly nonsense. Sure, everybody is equally affected by the rule change, and they require players to ignore the flag, but if everyone is supposed to ignore the flag, why wave the bloody flag? Who is it a signal for?

                  If the linesman is sure, wave the flag and stop the game. If not, don't and let VAR sort it out. This approach makes no sense.
                  Last edited by Kenneth; 06-12-19, 10:44 AM.
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                  • baitman
                    Dad's Cabs
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 27740

                    #444
                    Originally posted by Kenneth
                    Defenders have been playing to the flag since they were 6 years old. An offside flag has equalled a whistle for 100 years. The idea that this change is no big deal, just play to the whistle, is clearly nonsense. Sure, everybody is equally affected by the rule change, and they require players to ignore the flag, but if everyone is supposed to ignore the flag, why wave the bloody flag? Who is it a signal for?

                    If the linesman is sure, wave the flag and stop the game. If not, don't and let VAR sort it out. This approach makes no sense.
                    This indecision is a nightmare.
                    I mentioned something about the difference between what the prem linesmen do and the euro lino's, as mentioned by martin keown on motd, there needs to be a standardisation.
                    No good English linesman flagging and then letting var correct, or euro lino's not flagging and letting var sort it.
                    So why even have a linesman in europe?
                    Last edited by baitman; 06-12-19, 11:17 AM.
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                    • Maxiedge
                      Shankly
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 7769

                      #445
                      Originally posted by labourRed
                      That's all on 100% SU. Wilder can cry all he likes about VAR, and people only do it when it goes against them.

                      But the alternative here is the linesman flags a perfectly fine attack off. In his defence assistant reffing is the hardest to do, i'd say near impossible with any real degree of accuracy.

                      Play to the whistle, its not hard... kids can do it. Wilder also said Newcastle did a number on them, that's when he should have stopped talking.
                      Wilder "football has sucked the life out of me"

                      You were 5th in the league mate last week just after promotion. Get a grip.

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                      • dom9
                        Ant Pisser
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 69011

                        #446
                        Originally posted by Kenneth
                        Defenders have been playing to the flag since they were 6 years old. An offside flag has equalled a whistle for 100 years. The idea that this change is no big deal, just play to the whistle, is clearly nonsense. Sure, everybody is equally affected by the rule change, and they require players to ignore the flag, but if everyone is supposed to ignore the flag, why wave the bloody flag? Who is it a signal for?

                        If the linesman is sure, wave the flag and stop the game. If not, don't and let VAR sort it out. This approach makes no sense.
                        Flag is for the referee, no?
                        Oh I don't know.

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                        • Buzzo
                          Donald Buzzworth
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 67435

                          #447
                          Originally posted by dom9
                          Flag is for the referee, no?
                          It is play to the whistle, not play to the flags for sure.

                          Defenders have been hopefully glancing towards linesman for many years, but the ref controls the game.

                          I'm no fan of VAR but in this instance think the team ****ed up. The keeper would not get in trouble if he had concentrated and tried to make a save no matter what had gone on before.
                          Modifying post.

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                          • dom9
                            Ant Pisser
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 69011

                            #448
                            Originally posted by Buzzo
                            It is play to the whistle, not play to the flags for sure.



                            Defenders have been hopefully glancing towards linesman for many years, but the ref controls the game.



                            I'm no fan of VAR but in this instance think the team ****ed up. The keeper would not get in trouble if he had concentrated and tried to make a save no matter what had gone on before.
                            Yep. 100%
                            Oh I don't know.

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                            • labourRed
                              Paisley
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 13453

                              #449
                              Originally posted by Buzzo
                              It is play to the whistle, not play to the flags for sure.

                              Defenders have been hopefully glancing towards linesman for many years, but the ref controls the game.

                              I'm no fan of VAR but in this instance think the team ****ed up. The keeper would not get in trouble if he had concentrated and tried to make a save no matter what had gone on before.
                              Exactly, i played football for over a decade, you may call for an offside (raise an arm), but until the ref blows the whistle play doesn't stop. Refs can overrule a linesman, - you'd be foolish to play to the linesman.

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                              • Kenneth
                                Pond Scum
                                • May 2007
                                • 65636

                                #450
                                Originally posted by dom9
                                Flag is for the referee, no?
                                For what purpose?
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