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    #16
    Cardiff should be covered on all fronts in fairness, Insurance companies will now look for holes to excuse paying even in that blame falls on the player. Cardiff will have had keyman insurance in place, along with contract insurance.That is unless they didn't !
    I make no apologies, this is me

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      #17
      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
      Appears the pilot may not of had insurance to fly a fee paying passenger. This is going to be a right old tangle in the courts. I fully understand why Cardiff aren't rushing in to throw their money away.
      I would say the fact the McKay the man who brokered this deal and arranged the flights was not a registered football agent and he did so at the behest of Nantes is a most important piece of information

      That aside Cardiff after the signed the player had no knowledge of which plane and who was the pilot of Sala which just is just plane bonkers you have a 20 million pound asset in transit and you have no clue how he is getting here, I bet they put better care into their football scarfs mech in transit.

      I met a guy a few years back who consulted to EPL Chairmans about business practices in the 00s and the stories he told me just beggars believe
      Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
      #****CITY

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        #18
        Fifa is investigating the transfer payment for Emiliano Sala after Nantes made a claim against Cardiff City.

        Premier League side Cardiff were due to pay the first of three instalments for the £15m striker on Wednesday.

        Cardiff were due to make the first of three instalments on 20 February, but they agreed with French Lige 1 side Nantes to extend the deadline by a week.

        Nantes wrote to Cardiff on 5 February requesting the first instalment.

        But Cardiff said they were withholding payment until crash investigations were complete and they were satisfied about "anomalies" around the deal.

        Chairman Mehmet Dalman said Cardiff will be "honourable" with Nantes if they are contractually obliged to pay.

        French side Bordeaux are due 50% of his fee because of a sell-on clause when they sold Sala to Nantes in 2015.

        BBC
        Last edited by Bender; 27-02-19, 06:09 PM.

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          #19
          Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
          #****CITY

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            #20
            Apparently, Cardiff left him to arrange his own flights, amateur hour.
            Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
            #****CITY

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              #21
              Originally posted by Bender View Post
              Chairman Mehmet Dalman said Cardiff will be "honourable" with Nantes if they are contractually obliged to pay.
              BBC

              It's not honourable to do something after waiting until your dragged by the scruff of the neck to do it by every authority you've appealed to because yes you signed an agreement and you have to do it!

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                #22
                Willie McKay is one dodgy ****er. Sounds like they (the McKays) offered to arrange the transportation of Sala. Surely they had a duty of care?
                Another MASSIVE game

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rigadon View Post
                  Willie McKay is one dodgy ****er. Sounds like they (the McKays) offered to arrange the transportation of Sala. Surely they had a duty of care?
                  He answered that in that he used a company that provides flights that they normally use. He add further that people don't ask to see the licence of the driver when they order a taxi, etc.

                  I think the company that hired the pilot is probably culpable but not McKay who as you said is a shady ****er.

                  Willie McKay was the agent for Cardiff and his son the agent for Nantes. The fee (that they are happy for forgo ) is £1.5m. Great work if you can get it.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                    He answered that in that he used a company that provides flights that they normally use. He add further that people don't ask to see the licence of the driver when they order a taxi, etc.



                    I think the company that hired the pilot is probably culpable but not McKay who as you said is a shady ****er.



                    Willie McKay was the agent for Cardiff and his son the agent for Nantes. The fee (that they are happy for forgo ) is £1.5m. Great work if you can get it.


                    Willie is not a registered agent so he couldn't have been representing anyone.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by dom9 View Post


                      Willie is not a registered agent so he couldn't have been representing anyone.
                      Sorry he wasn't the "agent" for Cardiff, but "he was helping his son" who is owed the money, but you'd be naive to think it isn't basically him doing the work. The money funnels through Mark.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by dom9 View Post


                        Willie is not a registered agent so he couldn't have been representing anyone.
                        Aye, that was mentioned...merely acting as a adviser to his son apparently

                        Forego 1.5 million?...who the **** does that?!!!
                        Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                          Sorry he wasn't the "agent" for Cardiff, but "he was helping his son" who is owed the money, but you'd be naive to think it isn't basically him doing the work. The money funnels through Mark.
                          Right, but you were insinuating a pretty major conflict of interest which clearly didn't happen.

                          I mean, agenda are the scum of the earth etc etc, but let's at least be fair when putting the boot in.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            Right, but you were insinuating a pretty major conflict of interest which clearly didn't happen.

                            I mean, agenda are the scum of the earth etc etc, but let's at least be fair when putting the boot in.
                            I wasn't really insinuating this was a conflict. If one actor is acting as an agent he will be speaking to both clubs as it is a general negotiation. It wasn't fraud.

                            I can see where you're coming from, wording could've been better.

                            For clarity, i think all/most agents are leeches. He's clearly a leech. I don't think he's culpable for any wrong-doing here though except pocketing £1.5m for a football transfer.

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                              #29
                              All this mud-slinging is incredibly distasteful. 2 people have died - all parties need to remember that and start acting with a lot more grace.

                              JURGEN KLOPP - LIVERPOOL MANAGER

                              YNWA

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                                Sorry he wasn't the "agent" for Cardiff, but "he was helping his son" who is owed the money, but you'd be naive to think it isn't basically him doing the work. The money funnels through Mark.
                                Why?

                                Not all Glaswegians are dodgy.
                                Modifying post.

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