Cardiff / Nantes - Unsavory Legal Wrangle

[danperkins]

Well no grief or equivalent response to the death of someone without a person connection is genuine; pick a name on the dropping like flies thread; couldn't really give a **** about any of them truth be told. But collectively we know that there are people with a personal involvement who are affected and do care, so we have a collective theatre of public grief and respect. There is an acceptable level of reverence that is socially expected. Backing that up with writing off £15m though, **** that. There's no reason to think that the myriad of people involved in the emotional reaction to the incident weren't as genuine as anyone else because the people in charge of keeping the club running realise that writing off £15m that they may not owe is too high a price for a bit of good PR or for an imaginary concept like Karma.

[Rigadon]

Whoever organised that flight is in the ****. Hiring an unlicensed pilot to fly at night sounds like someone is going to prison.

Flight plans seen by BBC Wales indicate the flight scheduled to take Argentine player Sala for his first training session with Cardiff City had been due to leave Nantes airport at 09:00 local time on 21 January.

But the flight was postponed until 19:00, at the request of Sala, to allow him to spend the day saying goodbye to his Nantes teammates.

By the time Mr Ibbotson taxied a Piper Malibu plane on to the runway ready for take-off shortly after 19:00, it would have been around an hour and 10 minutes since sunset.

In an interview in February, football agent Willie McKay, who commissioned the flight, told the BBC that he and his family paid for the flight.

He was not involved, he said, in selecting the plane or the pilot and it was not a cost-share arrangement.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-47749265

[ChesterDave]

Whoever organised that flight is in the ****. Hiring an unlicensed pilot to fly at night sounds like someone is going to prison.

Not sure the person organising the flight would be in trouble unless they explicitly asked for an unqualified pilot. If, for arguments sake, someone hired a minibus and driver to take a group of people on an outing and it turned out the driver wasn't licensed the person making the booking wouldn't get in the ****. You expect the person to be qualified to provide the servicetthey are offering and wouldn't demand to see that they are

[Exiled_red]

I wonder how it works? Pilots would have to submit a flight plan and you would imagine at this point licenses would be checked. So I don’t reckon the culpability falls with who never booked the flight unless they knowingly were involved. If they were being deceived, how would anyone know what to look for if you are privately looking for a pilot licenses etc must

The person that would likely be in the most trouble is dead.

I am assuming that there must be a company who the agent booked the flight with and who arranged the pilot and plane. The agent said he didn't know the pilot so there must be a middle man and I imagine it will be them that ultimately is responsible

[Nicey]

His Dad, just died of a Heart Attack, he was 58, just 3 months after they lost a son. So sad.

[Fosterbloke]

Terrible news for the family

[Buzzo]

Very depressing news.

Broken hearted.

[Nicey]

Very depressing news.

Broken hearted.

literally

It could not have helped all of the nonsense that went on afterwards and to this day either ... Jesus the poor family Losing a son and Dad in 3 months

[Bender]

So so very very sad

[Leyton388]

So sad and only 58. At Least he is with his,son and at peace.

RIP.

[ChesterDave]

Some news reports that people have allegedly broken in to a morgue to photograph his (Emiliano, not his dad) body and share online.

Unbelievable the length some go to for online attention

[red g]

Man arrested on suspicion of manslaughter over Sala, 64 year old Yorkshireman.

[Leyton388]

Agent?

[red g]

don't think so he was Scottish.

[Cormack74]

From the beeb:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561

A man has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter in relation to the death of Argentine footballer Emiliano Sala who died in a plane crash.

The striker, who had signed with Cardiff City, was killed in the crash along with pilot David Ibbotson.

A spokesperson for Dorset Police said a 64-year-old man from North Yorkshire had been arrested and released while investigations continue.

The force added the families of the two men who died had been informed.

Mr Sala, 28, had been travelling from Nantes to Cardiff on 21 January when the plane he was in lost contact with air traffic control north of Guernsey.

His body was recovered in February but Mr Ibbotson's has never been found.

Mr Sala's body was brought to Portland and Dorset Police has been carrying out inquiries on behalf of the coroner.

Det Insp Simon Huxter, of the force's Major Crime Investigation Team, said: "As part of this investigation we have to consider whether there is any evidence of any suspected criminality and as a result of our inquiries we have today, Wednesday 19 June 2019, arrested a 64-year-old man from the North Yorkshire area on suspicion of manslaughter by an unlawful act.

"He is assisting with our inquiries and has been released from custody under investigation."

Det Insp Huxter urged people not to speculate about the identity of the man as it could hinder the investigation.