Cardiff / Nantes - Unsavory Legal Wrangle

[Buzzo]

Why? I can be sad that a guy dies, without giving Nantes money I don't have to?

No - you do. Check the small print

[Kenneth]

Kind of exposes all the tears and scarfs in Cardiff as a bit of an empty gesture.

This was always going to be a nightmare.

It don't agree with that at all. In fact it's a bizarre interpretation.

[ChesterDave]

It's not that bizzare given all the 'forever a bluebird' and 'one of us' type lines they were trotting out

[Buzzo]

It had to be a weird one for them.

An emotional response was required for someone they never made an emotional connection with.

Legally, they may or may not be liable for the fee. And I guess it’s insurance where the debate is being had.

But ultimately they were the reason he had to set foot on that plane. It cannot sit well that they are trying to find clauses to release them from financial (or indeed whose insurance) obligation.

Bad karma.

[Tee]

It had to be a weird one for them.

An emotional response was required for someone they never made an emotional connection with.

Legally, they may or may not be liable for the fee. And I guess it’s insurance where the debate is being had.

But ultimately they were the reason he had to set foot on that plane. It cannot sit well that they are trying to find clauses to release them from financial (or indeed whose insurance) obligation.

Bad karma.

[Kenneth]

Wtf, they were the reason he got on the plane, so they were in some way culpable? I don't think there is a logical way to link hypocrisy with an emotional response to a death and the financial fall out tbh. Resorting to karma doesn't help.

[Buzzo]

I’m not arguing it in court for them though am I

I can talk about karma and divine retribution. I’d feel responsible as the entity that set the chain of events in motion that ended in his death (on 2 deaths). And if I could walk away from the deal feeling i had done well by everyone then that’s what I’d do.

I just think all the hollow sentiment that emanated from them has been shown up to be exactly that.

[Kenneth]

Well no grief or equivalent response to the death of someone without a person connection is genuine; pick a name on the dropping like flies thread; couldn't really give a **** about any of them truth be told. But collectively we know that there are people with a personal involvement who are affected and do care, so we have a collective theatre of public grief and respect. There is an acceptable level of reverence that is socially expected. Backing that up with writing off £15m though, **** that. There's no reason to think that the myriad of people involved in the emotional reaction to the incident weren't as genuine as anyone else because the people in charge of keeping the club running realise that writing off £15m that they may not owe is too high a price for a bit of good PR or for an imaginary concept like Karma.

[Buzzo]

I agree with that re grief, and it will get worse as we are just in the early days in terms of age of death of Celebrity death culture, in about 10 years there will be one or two a day .

I’d never heard of Sala until his plane went down he was mad to get on that flight.

karma is real though.

[Kenneth]

It's not though, it's mumbo jumbo.

[EwarWoo]

I have no issue with Cardiff pursuing this, it's just basic sense. Their chairman kicking it off in the media around the guys funeral though was disgusting and everything following that now makes 'em look like ****s.

[Buzzo]

It's not though, it's mumbo jumbo.

Karmas coming for you.

[Buzzo]

Finally some truths. Pilot not qualified to fly at night. Massive insurance implications given his £12m cargo.

"Colour-blindness stops a pilot from obtaining a night rating straight away, because being able to differentiate between green and red lights is key to flying in the dark," an aviation source told BBC Wales.
"Anything that's on the UK licence applies to the US licence as well, so he couldn't do anything more than the UK licence allows.
"Flying outside the restrictions of your licence is illegal and that's likely to affect the insurance cover for the flight."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47749265

[Leyton388]

Whoever organised that flight is in the ****. Hiring an unlicensed pilot to fly at night sounds like someone is going to prison.

[Buzzo]

I wonder how it works? Pilots would have to submit a flight plan and you would imagine at this point licenses would be checked. So I don’t reckon the culpability falls with who never booked the flight unless they knowingly were involved. If they were being deceived, how would anyone know what to look for if you are privately looking for a pilot licenses etc must

The person that would likely be in the most trouble is dead.