Once again we see Mr Gerrard..

[Neil Young]

Reading this thread, my conclusion is that Stevie G is not ****, that he sometimes doesn't play well in big games which is only to be expected and that he is an important player for Liverpool. In short, he's a very good footballer and he's human.

Sometimes I wonder how we all coped before the Internet.

[keniget]

Stevie G didn't play badly yesterday but fans expect him that he scores a fantastic goal all of the time.

Terry Henry was anonymous for 89 mins yesterday and only profited from Carra's slip.

Again, you're using "just" yesterdays game. The point is of a trend emerging against the top sides. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with Marky, but it is most certainly a valid question and one that fans of other teams ask also. So is it a case of everyone apart from your rose-tinted Liverpool fans are thick or that there actually is cause for a bit of discussion.

[Guest]

Reading this thread, my conclusion is that Stevie G is not ****, that he sometimes doesn't play well in big games which is only to be expected and that he is an important player for Liverpool. In short, he's a very good footballer and he's human.

Sometimes I wonder how we all coped before the Internet.

What are your views on it then ? Could you provide some rational and valid points of your own instead of regurgitating and doing a summary of what you've assimilated ?

[lfcruleus]

Reading this thread, my conclusion is that Stevie G is not ****, that he sometimes doesn't play well in big games which is only to be expected and that he is an important player for Liverpool. In short, he's a very good footballer and he's human.

Sometimes I wonder how we all coped before the Internet.

You really fell out of the sarcastic tree this morning didnt you?

[cobain]

go missing in big games.
Come on people lets not deny it, he does disappear in SOME big games, it was there for all to see the dsy, at least Xabi put the boot in and looked like he really wanted it, Gerrard was outfought and outplayed by Gilberto(class act btw) and a French youngster, leaves alot to be desired.
Not the first time and something tells me not the last
Simply not good enough for a Captain of Liverpool in my opinion.

Gerrard is one of the best footballers in the world mate. But it seemed yesterday that he was constantly in defence. He rarely went forward. I don't know, maybe he was there because our defence played like ****e.

When Rosicky got the ball he was allowed to do everything. He should have been stopped, tackled, thrown of ballance... But no... He just dribbled himself somehow, shoot and scored. It shouldn't have happened.

[Guest]

So is it a case of everyone apart from your rose-tinted Liverpool fans are thick or that there actually is cause for a bit of discussion.

So, aren't we debating it now then ?

We have 11 players, with 5 or 6 of them playing in attacking positions and expected to 'make things happen' when we are going forward. Steve Gerrard is one of them and most probably our most important player.

It's clear that Arsenal, Chelsea and Manure are probably better teams than us, so I wouldn't expect Gerrard to drive us out of a quagmire every time we need him. He worked his socks off yesterday night (and each time he's playing), and that's enough for me. And with his talent, it'll be enough most of the time.

[Neil Young]

You really fell out of the sarcastic tree this morning didnt you?

Sorry.

[Spionkop69]

Right lets see then shall we:
Old Traffod this season, did he do anything of note?
Emirates Stadium, did he do anything of note?
Goodison Park, did he do anything of note?
Anfield today, did he do anything of note?

Same in some of them fixtures last season as well.

Come on people, open your ****ing eyes.

Instead of us opening our eyes, perhaps you should chop your hands off and stop subjecting us to this perpetual **** that you spout. Now **** off with your "Gerrard ain't good enough" bollox.

[Neil Young]

What are your views on it then ? Could you provide some rational and valid points of your own instead of regurgitating and doing a summary of what you've assimilated ?

Frankly mon vieux, what is the point?

I mean, it's really pretty obvious that the truth lies somewhere between the extremes of the first post (not good enough to be captain, etc.) and posts often (inappropriately in my view as far as this thread is concerned) labelled with the well-worn clichés about 'blind faith'/'rose-tinted spectacles'.

However, sorry if my attempt to point out the seeming futility of the discussion was unwelcome. It is of course your right to continue if you so wish and I can see that now.

[lfcruleus]

Frankly mon vieux, what is the point?

I mean, it's really pretty obvious that the truth lies somewhere between the extremes of the first post (not good enough to be captain, etc.) and posts often (inappropriately in my view as far as this thread is concerned) labelled with the well-worn clichés about 'blind faith'/'rose-tinted spectacles'.

However, sorry if my attempt to point out the seeming futility of the discussion was unwelcome. It is of course your right to continue if you so wish and I can see that now.

very politely put my good man

[Guest]

Frankly mon vieux, what is the point?

However, sorry if my attempt to point out the seeming futility of the discussion was unwelcome. It is of course your right to continue if you so wish and I can see that now.

But that's only because you're more mature than most of us. Being a middle aged man has it's advantages surely, and one of them is the ability to spot futility in threads which has a level of abstraction such as that.

[lfcruleus]

But that's only because you're more mature than most of us. Being a middle aged man has it's advantages surely, and one of them is the ability to spot futility in threads which has a level of abstraction such as that.

Haha it gets better a sarcasm war i love it

[nbryan1764]

I do get amazed at some of the criticism levelled at him on internet forums and I wonder if much of it is more to do with the Chelsea debacle x 2 than his performances.

Steven Gerrard is, in my opinion, only second in my lifetime to King Kenny. What he has done for our club is unbelievable and we are lucky that he chose (and was chosen) to come to our club when he was 8. In 17 years he has considered to leave twice. I have to confess I consider leaving ,my job more than once every 8 and a half years on average so I can forgive that. On the pitch we would not have progressed in the last couple of years in the way that we have without him. Liverpool Football Club is once again a name that big players will consider coming to. That of course is due to 2 things, potential of success and cash. SG has been a big factor in us gaining success. He cannot possibly win league titles on his own and we need to forgive him for not playing like Superman every game.

The fact is we ar a far stronger club with him than without him and he is what I would look for in a captain. He is passionate, has tremendous ability, and he cares.

[Marky]

Instead of us opening our eyes, perhaps you should chop your hands off and stop subjecting us to this perpetual **** that you spout. Now **** off with your "Gerrard ain't good enough" bollox.

Please tell me where i typed "Gerrard ain't good enough", go on.

[Neil Young]

Please tell me where i typed "Gerrard ain't good enough", go on.

I'm sure spionkop's big enough to look after himself but if I may post on his behalf...

Simply not good enough for a Captain of Liverpool in my opinion.