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    Liverpool - Football's Drama Queen

    Just been sent this link to a chelsea site by one of my mates.

    http://www.chelsea.vitalfootball.co....le.asp?a=49896



    Liverpool - Football's Drama Queen?

    There is some very interesting news coming out of Liverpool.

    I am not referring to Sheikh Maktoum, he of DIC, the Dubai Investment Behemoth, having showed an interest in buying the club, now seeming to have changed his mind; something we are obviously devastated about. No, I refer to something else.

    There has been a new FIFA/UEFA directive sent down from up high, and this has some serious ramifications for all of us. "Order" is being returned to football.

    One player may not play for two clubs in one period, and then sign for another one within a certain time period. The rules are there to prevent moves like the Javier Mascherano one, but for some reason, the rules are bent to accommodate Liverpool. We are not told that there are extenuating circumstances, or any reason why the rules should be broken, other than they have been so that Liverpool could get their player. But who are we to argue? We are just a small club in West London with no fans or history. Had we tried to get the undoubtedly talented young Argentine hardman, we would have been told where to go by UEFA, as we are ruining football, and it would be crassly wrong to allow us to ruin Mascherano`s career by never playing him. Quite right too. We can only applaud UEFA`s flexibility. It really does speak volumes about an organisation so willing to listen to and accommodate its favourite fourteen sons.

    In the not-too distant past, Liverpool did not qualify for the Champions League as they had not finished in a qualifying position in the League the previous season. Had it had been us we would not have played in the Champions League that season. But they let Liverpool in at the expense of some other team who had qualified, but obviously didn`t have the class or history that Liverpool had. Everyone here at Vital-Chelsea rapturously applauded UEFA their grace and foresight to include Liverpool. For a club that size, it shouldn`t matter if they qualified or not. Ok, the rules over who gets to play in the Champions League or not have been around for years, and have been set in stone, but Liverpool have not been inconvenienced by them before. It wasn`t all plain sailing across the Mersey however. As many people in Liverpool pointed out, it does beggar belief that they should have had to play through the preliminary stages. Against the cacophony of nasal whining from the Liverpool fans, we were amazed, and frankly very disappointed, that they were not put in the knockout stages. It was, we were told by a steaming multitude of Scousers, a disgrace that a club of Liverpool`s stature should have to play in the preliminaries.

    Can we expect a weighting system for next season`s Barclay`s Premiership? Having a team that wins the league because it has the most points is clearly absurd. It does not take into account history, class, dignity, or fanbase. This means that any old team can just come along and win the title instead of the teams that should rightfully be winning it. This is of course totally unacceptable. A weighting system will mean that Liverpool can finally have their trophy back, as lets be honest here fellow Chelsea fans, we have absolutely no right to be winning really.

    Then there was the Michael Essien issue. The player made a poor tackle that could have injured Dietmar Hamman badly. He was booked, and was lucky to stay on the pitch. FIFA rules state that once a player has been booked, that that`s that. He cannot be punished further. Unless of course Liverpool are involved in which case the rules do not apply and the player should be given a lengthy ban. Nothing like it had occurred before the incident. We all expected it to be introduced as the new rules and be the done thing from then on. Apparently not. The old rules still apply, but not in this case. Talk about moving the goalposts. Some may argue that this is against the spirit if the game, but as we all know, Liverpool invented the spirit of the game, hence, they are at liberty to do with it as they wish.

    Mind you, getting key rules "bent", byes into the Champions League, and players signed in complete contravention of the rules about signing players because someone thinks the rules should no apply to a huge club like Liverpool, could also be construed as against the spirit of the game. So indeed, could the riots at Heysel where all those Juventus fans died, it is alleged, as a result of the actions of the Liverpool fans. Not really in keeping with the spirit of the beautiful game. English clubs kicked out of Europe for a few seasons as a result. Doesn`t leave a pleasant taste does it? Liverpool fans robbing their own dead at Hillsborough, according to the red-tops of the time I would contend is probably not what UEFA has in mind when promoting the international universal language. Demanding bowing and scraping, countless minute`s silences and reverential deference from every other team in the league for the aforementioned tragedies, and then scrawling disgusting graffiti referring to the equally tragic Munich Air Disaster all over Old Trafford - hardly the stuff of boyhood football dreams. Hurling human excrement at opposition fans, and attacking the ambulance carrying the broken-legged Alan Smith in a recent game against Manchester United at Anfield - not exactly jumpers for goalposts is it?

    I can hear the howls of derision from here already. No doubt we will get hundreds of letters and emails denying that any of this ever happened and questioning our parentage etc. Apparently none of it did. Essien should have got a longer ban and they were doing the footballing world a favour. Chelsea and Millwall fans were responsible for the Heysel riot. The Liverpool fans were minding their own business. Alan Smith was clapped off by the Kop. Everything else is just a Murdoch-media crusade, a tissue of lies, to undermine and blacken the Liverpool name.

    We aren`t exactly angels ourselves.

    We`ve seen racism, fascism, anti-Semitism, and an awful lot of organised violence over the last 102 years at Chelsea. We are not much different to most big clubs, but we have moved on, accept and freely admit to our past, and are almost all glad those days have gone. Yes we`ve tapped players up, and yes I`m sure we`ve been involved in our fair share of bung enquiries over the years. Everyone has done it, and we are no different.

    The laughable misnomer that Liverpool Football Club is somehow better than us, that they are the best, most knowledgeable football fans in the world is nauseating. What has this huge club done to be given such special treatment by the footballing powers-that-be? Could it be the fact that the club and its fans love to be victims, and are footballing Drama Queens without compare? We certainly would not be given the same breaks - of that there is no question. Why do they deserve to be treated that way, and us not? Are they better than us? For all their arrogant bluster and "amusing" banners, no. They are no better than the rest of us and most certainly do not deserve their preferential treatment by UEFA. Nobody, other than the usual blinkered, rabid dribbling obsessives we get on here would argue that.

    It raises the question - to what extent will UEFA or FIFA move the goalposts to accommodate Liverpool? What further "bending" of the rules are we going to see, so that the Scousers may benefit? Arbitrary points awards for having 'the bestest player in the world ever, ever`? How far will they go to ensure Liverpool`s success?

    Certainly something to ponder on.
    We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it’s slightly less rude.

    #2
    He makes SOME good points, I'm emabarrassed about the way we seem to get decisions overturned and rules changed.
    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
    (1995)
    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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      #3
      Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
      He makes SOME good points, I'm emabarrassed about the way we seem to get decisions overturned and rules changed.
      Why?

      It's a pathetic article, reeking of an inferiority complex.
      Last edited by Shaggy; 01-02-07, 01:58 PM.
      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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        #4
        I see there is no mention of the fact that they signed Ashley Cole after the deadline last year - it was OK for the rules to be bent there though eh?

        What he also failed to mention was that we were actually Champions of Europe when we were allowed back into the competition as UEFA agreed that the champions should have the chance to defend their trophy!

        ******s!!

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          #5
          These rulings we've had go our way recently have always been the right and proper thing, and had precedents. It just gets publicity because we are Liverpool, that's all. No doubt we have clout that they don't, but the whole article basically smacks of jealousy for our history.
          Like blood on iron

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            #6
            Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
            Why?

            It's a pathetic article, reeking of an inferiority complex.
            I did put "SOME" in capitals though Shaggy.

            I'm personally embarrassed by the way we were let into the 2005/6 Champions league and also at this Mascherano debacle.
            We shouldn't need to be one of those clubs trying to flout the laws.
            Originally posted by Gordon Brown
            (1995)
            "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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              #7
              The only thing more obvious than the Mascherano deal going through was that that lot would complain about it.

              Don't buy into their bollocks. We got in the Champions League in 05/06 because we were the Champions and it was the right thing to do.

              That rule has since been changed because it made complete sense.

              Mascherano is a footballer. He wasn't playing football. He should be allowed to go somewhere where he will play football, regardless of if he's played for 2 clubs this season or 22.

              And as for being drama queens, surely the statement: 'Had we tried to get the undoubtedly talented young Argentine hardman, we would have been told where to go by UEFA', is the best example of drama queen you can get?
              Dreams come true. Without that possibility, nature would not incite us to have them.
              John Updike

              My son Foster is a fan of soccer. He was a goaltender. His brother was a defenseman.
              George Gillett

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                #8
                Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                These rulings we've had go our way recently have always been the right and proper thing, and had precedents. It just gets publicity because we are Liverpool, that's all. No doubt we have clout that they don't, but the whole article basically smacks of jealousy for our history.
                Where is the precedent for the Champions league 2005/6 entry please?
                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                (1995)
                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                  #9
                  Real Madrid got let in and they kicked Real Zaragoza out, not sure exactly when it was but I think it was 2001/02
                  Dreams come true. Without that possibility, nature would not incite us to have them.
                  John Updike

                  My son Foster is a fan of soccer. He was a goaltender. His brother was a defenseman.
                  George Gillett

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                    These rulings we've had go our way recently have always been the right and proper thing, and had precedents. It just gets publicity because we are Liverpool, that's all. No doubt we have clout that they don't, but the whole article basically smacks of jealousy for our history.
                    Absolutely correct.

                    In the Mascherano case, the rule was an ass. A rule that directly contrasts the LAW. Also precedents had been set. It was a no-brainer, and I’d suggest anyone complaining about is just bitter.

                    Again, with the CL thing, a precedent had previously been set. What were we supposed to do? Every single club on earth in the same position would’ve done the same as we did.

                    They’re just ****ing jealous, simple as that.⨪
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jonesie23 View Post
                      The only thing more obvious than the Mascherano deal going through was that that lot would complain about it.

                      Don't buy into their bollocks. We got in the Champions League in 05/06 because we were the Champions and it was the right thing to do.

                      That rule has since been changed because it made complete sense.

                      Mascherano is a footballer. He wasn't playing football. He should be allowed to go somewhere where he will play football, regardless of if he's played for 2 clubs this season or 22.

                      And as for being drama queens, surely the statement: 'Had we tried to get the undoubtedly talented young Argentine hardman, we would have been told where to go by UEFA', is the best example of drama queen you can get?
                      On top of this, its actually Mascherano's job. Im pretty confident EU law dictates he has the right to work. Or something along those lines anyway.
                      Secondly, didn't EUFA take into account that the Brazilian league season starts and finishes at different parts of the year to ours??
                      Com ce, com ca.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                        Where is the precedent for the Champions league 2005/6 entry please?
                        Real Madrid.
                        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jonesie23 View Post
                          Real Madrid got let in and they kicked Real Zaragoza out, not sure exactly when it was but I think it was 2001/02
                          Actually you are WRONG.

                          Entry to the Champion league (before 2006/7) was completely decided by the respective national authorities. It was up to The spanish FA to choose Madrid over Zaragoza.
                          Our FA had the chance to do the same, but it refused, choosing Everton over LFC.
                          2005/6 was the first time that any nation had 5 representatives.
                          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                          (1995)
                          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                            I did put "SOME" in capitals though Shaggy.

                            I'm personally embarrassed by the way we were let into the 2005/6 Champions league and also at this Mascherano debacle.
                            Why though? What is there to be embarrassed about? In each case we had every right and the supposed "rule" didn't have a leg to stand on.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                              Real Madrid.
                              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                              (1995)
                              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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