Liverpool - Football's Drama Queen

[disco]

Ahsley Cole - they were found guilty as were we with Ziege
Abramovich - well technically he hasn't broken any rules.
Mikell - was it 16 million chavski paid Man Utd to steal him?
Terry - rumours without evidence

I'm not a chavski apologist, all those claims are irrelevant.

Well done, you've dismissed the above as easily as we can dismiss the bitters post

[jonesie]

I'm bored of this now, there are more important things going on at our club to worry about.

[disco]

I'm bored of this now, there are more important things going on at our club to worry about.

Me too

Plus I'm off my lunch

[Red Chilli]

It would not have been fair at all on Everton. The only fair way would have been us starting off in the group stage AND Everton in the 3rd qualifying round.

We're talking precedents for qualification here. You do this - you get that. Real won it - they qualified because they won it and for no other reason. Same should've gone for us. All this talk of the FA's discretion is bollocks, it makes a mockery of the whole idea of 'rules' that an FA can just decide on it's own whim. UEFA designed the rules with the intention of ensuring champions always enter the competition they just made an oversight.

It would have been fair, Everton had no right to enter the competition, it was up to the FA to choose.

[AFII]

First the rule was that the winners would get the fourth placed teams place in the CL. The the FA suddenly changed that so that the fourth placed team would get that place.

At that time Arsenal and Bolton would have been the winners with that rule. Arsenal was involved when they changed the rule in a battle for fourth place with us, Everton and Bolton.

Dein and Gartside was allowed to vote when the FA decided to change the rule.

[Rich]

There was no way on earth that Gartside and Dein would vote against their clubs, not a chance in hell.

[Red Chilli]

First the rule was that the winners would get the fourth placed teams place in the CL. The the FA suddenly changed that so that the fourth placed team would get that place.

No.

That's bollocks. The RULES are drawn up by UEFA and the rules were that it was up to the FA to decide. How they did that was completely irrelevant.

[JRC]

That would have been quite fair as it was stated in the rules.

I can't see how adding ONE club to the cometition doesn't result in one club missing out.

As in that if we hadn't been in it, someone else would have qualified from the pre-qual rounds, agreed; but that is now a hypothetical team rather than a specific, named team losing their opportuntiy.

As, I believe, everyone still got to play in the qualifiers, the balance between complying with the spirit of the competition rules and letting us in, and the loss of a potential place in the last 32 for each of the qualifiers is not unreasonable, although I admire your consistent moral rectitude

[AFII]

No.

That's bollocks. The RULES are drawn up by UEFA and the rules were that it was up to the FA to decide.

I know that.

The FA had a statement on their site that said that the winners would get the place in the CL. Then they changed it.

[Red Chilli]

As in that if we hadn't been in it, someone else would have qualified from the pre-qual rounds, agreed; but that is now a hypothetical team rather than a specific, named team losing their opportuntiy.

As, I believe, everyone still got to play in the qualifiers, the balance between complying with the spirit of the competition rules and letting us in, and the loss of a potential place in the last 32 for each of the qualifiers is not unreasonable, although I admire your consistent moral rectitude

I'm still not getting this.

One countries association had it's number of teams eligible for the qualifying rounds reduced by 1. That's the only way I can see it working and in my opinion it was unfair.

[Red Chilli]

I know that.

The FA had a statement on their site that said that the winners would get the place in the CL. Then they changed it.

That statement on their site was never a RULE though, was it?

[dom9]

On top of this, its actually Mascherano's job. Im pretty confident EU law dictates he has the right to work. Or something along those lines anyway.

Sorry - he is/was getting paid by West Ham. His job is to turn up for training, and play when selected.

[disco]

Even if Fifa declined the request (NOT a rule change), West Ham could have cancelled his contract by mutual consent and he'd have been free to join anyway.

[Red_Polo]

It would have been fair, Everton had no right to enter the competition, it was up to the FA to choose.

So basically you think whatever the FA decided would be fair, regardless of any facts or precedents. You just think because it was left up to them it was fair either way. What an absolutely bizarre idea of fairness.

[Mumsafan]

Yay! We have our own rules! **** the rest of em! Yay us!!!!!