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    #76
    Originally posted by Pacman View Post
    Do you believe that though Dan or do you think it interests them now there is no other viable option?

    If it didn't interest them they wouldn't have asked DIC for more time to consider their options.
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      #77
      Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
      Yes, but on the other hand people are accepting this deal without knowing anything about it. People are too happy to go along with the attitude "Parry and Moores, they're fans, they know best". Well I dont trust them, and I have questions about this deal, which until answered, I retain my prerogative to be sceptical about it.

      Kopdan says we know Gillett offered a better deal than DIC, truth is we dont know anything substantive about Gillett's bid except that it is more lucrative for shareholders. What else do we know for sure that makes this deal better for the club?
      but on the same front Parry and Moores looked like they were more than willing to forget about the DIC deal and end of day they are privvy to all the facts.

      DIC throwing their teddy out and talk of them going to barcodes, talk of funding it via other investors.
      All sounds like we'd of been controled by shareholders who could easily be after a quick return.

      end of day i'm more than happy to trust Moores to do what's right for the club as he is Liverpool thro and thro.
      IF DIC was the deal they wouldn't off by all accounts given them the cold shoulder the last week or so.

      That document has a lot to do with this IMO.
      Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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        #78
        Originally posted by kopdan View Post
        right ok,

        I wanted DIC (again no puns). I wasnt really concerned about the document at the time. I still think they probably would be better for us. Dont know why, just a gut instinct. BUT I am not worried about two non fans coming on board. If anything it may help drive the club forward.

        By that I mean, no nonsense business development which is something LFC havent really got under a sentimental chairman.

        Liverpool may change. We simply dont know but for the club to go forward, we need a fresh look. Perhaps these guys will get it right.
        Well I hope you're right about the fresh business outlook, granted this is certainly something we need, although I dont think there's anything to suggest DIC wouldn't have taken the club forward in this regard either.

        Also having two people at the helm - just a bit concerned this may lead to disagreements which could affect important decision-making.
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          #79
          It's funny how all the Mancs who were up in arms about Glazer's takeover have shut the **** up now they are probably going to win the Premiership and, although they are normally quite modest and reserved, they reckon they'll "win the treble again"...

          However, the point is that it hasn't had a negative effect on them as a club, indeed quite the opposite, as in less than two years the Glazers have still provided over £30m to buy Van der Sar, Park Ji Sung, Vidic, Evra, Kuszczak and Carrick and allegedly offered £20m for Hargreaves.

          If Gillett and Hicks do take over let's give them a chance before we rush off and set up 'FC Liverpool of Anfield' so instead of playing the Blue ****e and the Mancs we can play derbies against Marine and Burscough in the Tampax Northern Counties League Division 4...

          There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Pacman View Post
            Do you believe that though Dan or do you think it interests them now there is no other viable option?
            Looks like last week DIC weren't the best option, not 2 days ago.

            There are other options
            Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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              #81
              Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
              All this doom and gloom.Listen guys,it's not as if we are in some kind freefalling decline,hanging on to our prem status by thin threads.Why should it matter if it's the arabs or the americans investing in our club.As long as the investment is there and the best interest of the club is at heart,which i trust David Moores hole heartedly in assuring.

              We were european champions only 18 monthes ago,have the best manager leading the team and have the best footballer in the world at the heart of it.We have a squad,imo,2 players short of challenging truly for the title.We not doing to badly at the moment without investment.I truly feel that the stadium issue is the most important factor in all of this to push us to the next level.

              I think many fans had this perception that the arabs would come in and bankroll the club ala Chelski,with wish lists of ronaldinho,kaka,Torres and the like.That was never going to happen and i for one didn't really want that.

              If this deal with Gillet goes through,it will be a major move for us to push us on and i for one am really excited about this.It's not selling our soul to the yanks but merely spreading our wings further than they have been before.No such thing as bad publicity and us being in the news and the talk of all the major financial companies can only raise our profile.

              Patience is the key i believe,lets see what will happen.

              Some good points there IMO. If you think about it, Liverpool must be a really attractive investment opportunity - they might even make some money in the end. Like you say, the team is maybe 2-3 players from a title challenging squad and has lots of unlocked marketing potential. There is not much investment needed to win the league with Rafa in charge and he is already plotting for the future and buying potential stars. The new stadium will be expensive but will pay for itself in part at least and with a good sponsor they might not have to put much of their own money in the club in the future.

              If I had money, I wouldn´t think twice - hence Gillett´s eagerness.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                #82
                Originally posted by rushscored4 View Post
                It's funny how all the Mancs who were up in arms about Glazer's takeover have shut the **** up now they are probably going to win the Premiership and, although they are normally quite modest and reserved, they reckon they'll "win the treble again"...

                However, the point is that it hasn't had a negative effect on them as a club, indeed quite the opposite, as in less than two years the Glazers have still provided over £30m to buy Van der Sar, Park Ji Sung, Vidic, Evra, Kuszczak and Carrick and allegedly offered £20m for Hargreaves.

                If Gillett and Hicks do take over let's give them a chance before we rush off and set up 'FC Liverpool of Anfield' so instead of playing the Blue ****e and the Mancs we can play derbies against Marine and Burscough in the Tampax Northern Counties League Division 4...


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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Onebrow View Post
                  agreed cant help but feel we'll live to regret this one, americans and football just doent ring true to me .......
                  ive mmixed emotions.
                  One part is saying, maybe this is good, two wealthy sports franchise owners with experience and with experience of construction.
                  The other part of me is saying, GH & Roy Evans for obvious reasons.
                  Does anyone else suspect that they may try and build the club a new stadium and possibly sell us on again?.
                  Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                  'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                  "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                  * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                    But a deal was agreed with DIC and we backed out

                    By the way I refer to my previous posts that I would eat my own Sh1t if DIC came back in and I stand by them
                    Point taken but I cant see anywhere on the net which sugggest D.I.C would come back. imo it will not happen.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                      ive mmixed emotions.
                      One part is saying, maybe this is good, two wealthy sports franchise owners with experience and with experience of construction.
                      The other part of me is saying, GH & Roy Evans for obvious reasons.
                      Does anyone else suspect that they may try and build the club a new stadium and possibly sell us on again?.
                      Very possibly. But then I suppose DIC may have done this, in fact anyone who invests millions of points in a business may do this. Once you put yourself up for sale you are inviting this sort of thing.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by kopdan View Post
                        It obviously did for them to consider it.

                        Having calmed down a lot from Wednesday and putting my sensible head on I agree with other people that any rival bid the board would have to consider. What really grates on me though is this 'David Morres wasn't going to be bullied' statement. If DIC was a better option for Liverpool but Moores didn't like the 12 hour dead line they set then tough sh!t. Swallow your pride and do what's best for the club.

                        I worry about how much money these 2 yanks have got and having spoke to somone who supports one of the teams this Hicks owns he has said he only cares that the books are balanced and doesn't care if the team doesn't win titles.

                        Parry sold us this dream and now is asking us to forget it all and follow him in another direction. I'm struggling to do so at the minute and I think some explaining is needed however I doubt we'll get an explanation as for after we are only fans and not shareholders.
                        **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                          Having calmed down a lot from Wednesday and putting my sensible head on I agree with other people that any rival bid the board would have to consider. What really grates on me though is this 'David Morres wasn't going to be bullied' statement. If DIC was a better option for Liverpool but Moores didn't like the 12 hour dead line they set then tough sh!t. Swallow your pride and do what's best for the club.

                          I worry about how much money these 2 yanks have got and having spoke to somone who supports one of the teams this Hicks owns he has said he only cares that the books are balanced and doesn't care if the team doesn't win titles.

                          Parry sold us this dream and now is asking us to forget it all and follow him in another direction. I'm struggling to do so at the minute and I think some explaining is needed however I doubt we'll get an explanation as for after we are only fans and not shareholders.
                          The only good thing I hear about Gillett is that they would fund the new Stadium, get rid of debts etc. however there is no mention of how much funds will be available to rafa for players. imo I don't believe they have the sort of money we need to achieve all of this.
                          Last edited by marcus50bucks; 02-02-07, 12:00 PM.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                            ive mmixed emotions.
                            One part is saying, maybe this is good, two wealthy sports franchise owners with experience and with experience of construction.
                            The other part of me is saying, GH & Roy Evans for obvious reasons.
                            Does anyone else suspect that they may try and build the club a new stadium and possibly sell us on again?.
                            Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                            Having calmed down a lot from Wednesday and putting my sensible head on I agree with other people that any rival bid the board would have to consider. What really grates on me though is this 'David Morres wasn't going to be bullied' statement. If DIC was a better option for Liverpool but Moores didn't like the 12 hour dead line they set then tough sh!t. Swallow your pride and do what's best for the club.

                            I worry about how much money these 2 yanks have got and having spoke to somone who supports one of the teams this Hicks owns he has said he only cares that the books are balanced and doesn't care if the team doesn't win titles.

                            Parry sold us this dream and now is asking us to forget it all and follow him in another direction. I'm struggling to do so at the minute and I think some explaining is needed however I doubt we'll get an explanation as for after we are only fans and not shareholders.
                            This "bullied" stuff is obviously just Parry's spin. Having just gone through a period of due dilligence at work, I can tell you arbitrary deadlines are imposed on us all the time, but if both parties want to make the deal happen you work within those time frames.

                            They way I see it DIC didn't act at all irrationally or illogical. They've been negotiating exclusively with the club for 2 months at great expense, they had in place an agreement in principle, for all intents and purposes they thought the deal was simply about to be rubber stamped, yet the club comes back to them and says we want to talk to someone else. I'd be pissed off if I was them as well.

                            PS And another thing, Parry is a plank if he just expects us to follow him blindly without any kind of rationale or justification, after as you rightly say he sold us a dream and now they've decided just to accept the more lucrative offer.
                            Last edited by Dhav; 02-02-07, 11:57 AM.
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                              #89
                              Originally posted by disco View Post
                              Did you have 'special' tea this morning fella?
                              My whole life is a specialty...
                              There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
                                Well I hope you're right about the fresh business outlook, granted this is certainly something we need, although I dont think there's anything to suggest DIC wouldn't have taken the club forward in this regard either.

                                Also having two people at the helm - just a bit concerned this may lead to disagreements which could affect important decision-making.

                                I never said DIC wouldnt take us forward. They would have done...well you'd hope so.

                                I'd take either deal now. Im that desperate for LFC to have the money in the bank.

                                With regards two men in charge. Dont see the issue. DIC was a company so more cooks and that.

                                It will either work or it wont. Will be fun finding out
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