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    #31
    JAR does, however, give Rafa "Possibilities".

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      #32
      Originally posted by Bellamy34
      Cole is so over-rated it's untrue, usually by the championship manager know-alls.

      I'd rather have Riise.
      Never played CM, but Ashley Cole is quicker, positionally better, stronger in the tackle.

      Riiise scores more goals

      what does Riise offer that cole doesnt?
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      Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

      Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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        #33
        Goals?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Bellamy34
          Goals?
          apart from goals? mentioned that before. Riise has scored 25 goals for us in 175 games good return!

          ashley Cole has 8 in 156 gamres
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          Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

          Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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            #35
            Heart, passion, fitness, loyalty.

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              #36
              Originally posted by red g
              apart from goals? mentioned that before. Riise has scored 25 goals for us in 175 games good return!

              ashley Cole has 8 in 156 gamres
              Is there anywhere where we can see last seasons stats for both players?
              Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
              'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

              "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

              * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                #37
                Cole hardly played last year, so those stats would be faily useless I'd imagine

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Charlie_B
                  Cole hardly played last year, so those stats would be faily useless I'd imagine
                  Well to a degree yes, but it also proves that Cole is injury prone.
                  Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                  'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                  "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                  * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                    #39
                    just had a quick look at espn profiles going back to the 2001/02 season

                    in that time Riise scored 27 goals in all club comps and provided 12 assists

                    in the same time Cole scored 6 goals and provided 8 assists

                    there is no doubt in my mind who's better !

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Charlie_B
                      Cole hardly played last year, so those stats would be faily useless I'd imagine
                      even if you discount the whole of last season taking away Riise's 4 goals and 1 assist, he still has a better record than Cole

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                        #41
                        Defensively, Cole is miles ahead of Riise.
                        Going forward, I'd say Cole is equally as good as Riise, but then the stats say otherwise.
                        You then take into account loyalty, wages and fitness, which all go in Riise's favour.

                        Just depends what people look for in a LB I suppose

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by rebel23

                          in that time Riise scored 27 goals in all club comps and provided 12 assists

                          in the same time Cole scored 6 goals and provided 8 assists

                          Attacking wise: Riise wins

                          Defending wise: Cole wins

                          Even with the 'defensively suspect' left-back, we have one of the best back four in the continent. Having Cole instead will improve our defence but only marginally. However, having Riise as our left back improves our attacking options significantly as shown by the above statistic.

                          Conclusion: I prefer John Arne Riise.
                          "In fact I’m going to make a promise which will be welcomed by many. If there’s no finance secured by the opening day of the season, I’m going to hang up my keyboard and close KOPTALK down."

                          Duncan Oldham, March 29th 2006

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by rebel23
                            just had a quick look at espn profiles going back to the 2001/02 season

                            in that time Riise scored 27 goals in all club comps and provided 12 assists

                            in the same time Cole scored 6 goals and provided 8 assists

                            there is no doubt in my mind who's better !
                            Pleasantly surprised at JAR's scoring and assists record - are they defo accurate? In saying that he played a lot of games at LM so probably not too fair to compare like for like - I certainly would have thought Cole's return was better than that though
                            At a football club there's a holy trinity- the players the manager and the supporters, Directors dont come into it, they are only there to sign the cheques " - Bill Shankly

                            If only

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by rebel23
                              just had a quick look at espn profiles going back to the 2001/02 season

                              in that time Riise scored 27 goals in all club comps and provided 12 assists

                              in the same time Cole scored 6 goals and provided 8 assists

                              there is no doubt in my mind who's better !
                              Cole is a much better defender, while Riise is a far greater attacking threat.

                              People go on about Cole's attacking qualities - well, I don't recall him either scoring or directly setting up too many goals over the years. Yes he's quick, and offers a decent outlet (especially on the overlap) but his end product is poor and I think that aspect of his game is way overrated.

                              I'd laugh if Chelsea spent £24m on him. He won't improve them that much.
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                #45
                                you're free to look yourself here

                                JAR :


                                Cole (who demands 90k a week)

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