UEFA allegations - discussion

[poorscousertommy]

Have they any evidence of Liverpool fans nicking the flags?

Video footage? Any arrests?

If not then surely saying that it was Liverpool fans who stole the flags is slander on its own?

UEFA in blame someone else to cover up its own inadequacies shocker.

[Kopite_Colin]

Instead of us acting like everybody hates us I think it may be better to do something positive and constructive. The vast majority of fans on here (and at the club, and in Athens) were / are decent individuals who follow the team passionately. Given that there was a collaboration with all other LFC internet sites discussed/ mentioned on here a few days ago regarding another issue (I can't remember what) , maybe the best way forward to tackle this latest attack by UEFA is to organise a formal written response to both the Club and UEFA, and maybe even the Media to put our point of view across. Not reactionary, or blaming anyone else, but factual, steady, accurate and considered. Surely the objective should be to higlight the issues and avoid any more scenes that were witnessed this year at any major future Final .

[Gazzla]

UEFA are ****ing clueless, wasn't it in Istanbul that we were being praised by UEFA for being the best fans in Europe?

[El Jefecito]

Instead of us acting like everybody hates us I think it may be better to do something positive and constructive. The vast majority of fans on here (and at the club, and in Athens) were / are decent individuals who follow the team passionately. Given that there was a collaboration with all other LFC internet sites discussed/ mentioned on here a few days ago regarding another issue (I can't remember what) , maybe the best way forward to tackle this latest attack by UEFA is to organise a formal written response to both the Club and UEFA, and maybe even the Media to put our point of view across. Not reactionary, or blaming anyone else, but factual, steady, accurate and considered. Surely the objective should be to higlight the issues and avoid any more scenes that were witnessed this year at any major future Final .

You'd be better getting everyone together and solving the problem. I don't doubt that most of what Uefa accuses us of is true.

Therefore there are a minority of troublemakers out there who are the REAL problem. Deal with the root cause not mess that it causes.

[LFCman]

UEFA are SCUM and FILTH.

Why do you think most Ultra groups across Europe hate them so much.

The fact that 5,000 fans missed out on the final cos they'd rather give the space to advertising says it all.

**** off UEFA.

[LFCman]

Agreed. These pricks in UEFA have to be pulled up for this.

How many times have you heard about fans being stabbed or killed at Anfield on Euro nights? None, yet look at Roma, Galatasaray, etc..

Exactly, there is footage of a Fenerbahce fans literally burning their own stadium with flares, a Turkish fan on the pitch with a knife, CSKA Moscow hooligans unleashing carnage in the streets of Moscow.

[StevieG08]

The more i think about this statement the more angry i'm getting. The police out there were a ****ing joke, not interested in helping people in the slightest.

The layout and location of the ground was also a joke. Half a dozen street vendors selling luke warm beer or stone cold kebabs in the middle of a wasteland which was a minimum 30 minute taxi ride from the centre of Athens.

As for trouble, 200 of us were dropped off at the Milan end and walked to the ground with the Milan fans, no trouble whatsoever. Get to the Liverpool end and it's a complete bottle neck ( two hours before the game! )

I'm not even going to mention the complete lack of public toilet facilities as i'm more than happy to piss up against a wall but not ideal for woman and kids is it!?

I could go on all day about it but as i've said it's the worse atmosphere i've ever experienced at a football match and only a small percentage of blame can be laid at the feet of the mindless minority of fans who tried to bunk into the ground.

[le2red]

Wasn't a policeman killed by 'fans' in Italy not too long ago?

This was only one incident though, we've had 25 incidents remember, at least one of which was because we were singing too loudly.

[molonyg]

Lets do something about this

Following Galliard comments about us Liverpool fans and the alleged 25 incidents that Liverpool fans have supposed to have been involved in since 2003, (despite there being no mention of them by UEFA), why dont we organise doing something about it. For example if someone one could locate his email address or one for Uefa we could write to them saying that Liverpool fans will refuse to buy products from the offical sponsors of the CL until these unfounded comments are withdrawn and Liverpool fans receive an apology.
Hit them where it hurts... in the pocket

[Marky]

Maybe a loada bollocks but you have to admit some so-called lpool fans behaviour has been rotten these past couple of years at Old Trafford and then the Athens fiasco which some fans have to take there share of the blame for.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Lets cave his ****in head in and make it 26.

[Marky]

Or how about start ****ing behaving then he'll have nothing to
complain about?

[molonyg]

Or how about starting ****ing behaving then he'll have nothing to
complain about?

Agreed

[le2red]

I think there is an element of our fan base which needs weeding out, but UEFA's ridiculous slurs are going to have the opposite effect by generating a them and us scenario.

[Red_Polo]

Or how about starting ****ing behaving then he'll have nothing to
complain about?

It's a smear campaign, not a fair representation of our fans. Cop on