Mascher: "Chelsea have lost their spark!"

[Nicey]

What a load of absolute cock custard, idiotic thread ... must be a slow news day ..We are going to stuff Chelsea tormmorow, they can **** off back down to london with prohetic reading material from the Masher ...

I like plasyers talking it up in he papers once they can back it up and thats what we will do ....

Winning is a state of mind

[Red_Polo]

I must agree.

@ Polo: Regarding the superstition, maybe I read between the lines too much, but the whole 'It's going to backfire on us!' sort of talk, in my opinion, could be rendered superstitious. They are only words Mascher used, there was hardly anything sinister about them, he talked his talk. Fair comments in my opinion and it will have little, if any, bearing on the outcome of the match on Sunday.

Yeah I can see that tbf. Pride before a fall etc.

Personally I think the comments were inadvisable from a psychological standpoint, Chelsea are unlikely to shrink away because of these kind of comments, they are confident in their own ability and mentally tough - it will only fuel them. That said, it's not really that big a deal. I read it in the paper, thought it was probably the wrong move, then thought no more of it until this thread. It's toward the end of the season that the mind games really come into play.

[The Glove]

Winning is a state of mind

Exactly. Imagine if there was a boxer who come out and waffled on about how it might be a tough fight and he wasnt making any predictions and maybe a draw would do. He get ****in leathered in the ring, he'dve lost before its even started. If we mean business we need to act like it, and making light of Chelsea like they do of us is the way forward.

[Red_Polo]

Exactly. Imagine if there was a boxer who come out and waffled on about how it might be a tough fight and he wasnt making any predictions and maybe a draw would do. He get ****in leathered in the ring, he'dve lost before its even started. If we mean business we need to act like it, and making light of Chelsea like they do of us is the way forward.

Why give them the ammo though? Within your own camp it's fine to say 'we're going to smash the *****' or whatever, but I'm not sure it does us any favours to let them know that's what we think - in the case of a mentally tough opponent it usually provokes a positive reaction on their part.

[sean_lfc]

Exactly. Imagine if there was a boxer who come out and waffled on about how it might be a tough fight and he wasnt making any predictions and maybe a draw would do. He get ****in leathered in the ring, he'dve lost before its even started. If we mean business we need to act like it, and making light of Chelsea like they do of us is the way forward.

You show 'em Glovster! Nice and blunt!









(I fully agree )

[The Glove]

Ah **** them. We smack tomorrow ****s and they wont like it.

[redblood]

Bollocks to that mate. Rafa should just come out and say 'We're gonna **** these *****' Just like we do.

That would be interesting mate I'd like to see Jose's face as he hears that.

[redblood]

Then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I further think it wasn't 'down to their level' and 'spouting any kind of ****e'. It was quite a normal assessment of the current situation. This however is just my subjective opinion and cannot be stated as fact. Agree to disagree And I don't think Mascher was being disrespectful, that might have warranted a claim such as 'They're an aweful team to watch, their football is very static and one-way, completely unlike us. That is why I believe they don't even need to turn up.' That, in my opinion would be disrespectful.

Never-to-mind, after we beat them on Sunday this comment will have been all but forgotten.


Edit: When they drubbed us 4-1 we weren't half the team we are now and they were on top form with hardly any injuries. Then was then, this is now and all that

Doesn't matter really, Sunday the talking will be done on the pitch as it would be even without Mascher's comments. I doubt his comments will have 'serious repercussions' as some seem to make it out.

Ok so it wasn't any kind of ****e but I really don't want us to lose our dignity. I know we can beat these ****s, the manager knows it and the players know it, we don't need to shout about it.
I would just hate us to start the type of ****e that Moaninhno has been known for, I like Rafa for his dignity and his clever wit is good enough to make a point without seeming like an arrogant ****.
By all means we should be confident and we should be fired up but again leave it for the pitch that's the Liverpool way so let's continue that way.

[redblood]

What a load of absolute cock custard, idiotic thread ... must be a slow news day ..We are going to stuff Chelsea tormmorow, they can **** off back down to london with prohetic reading material from the Masher ...

I like plasyers talking it up in he papers once they can back it up and thats what we will do ....

Winning is a state of mind

Winning is a state of mind mate I agree, but you don't have to be blabbing about it you can still believe it.

[tomasjj]

Let's kick some Chav butt!

El Jefecito is boss!

[sean_lfc]

Ok so it wasn't any kind of ****e but I really don't want us to lose our dignity. I know we can beat these ****s, the manager knows it and the players know it, we don't need to shout about it.
I would just hate us to start the type of ****e that Moaninhno has been known for, I like Rafa for his dignity and his clever wit is good enough to make a point without seeming like an arrogant ****.
By all means we should be confident and we should be fired up but again leave it for the pitch that's the Liverpool way so let's continue that way.

When did Rafa utter those comments? Mascher said what he said, and Rafa (as in that other thread) said what he said about Rotation. Let's not get the both confused and start using one for the basis of argument for the other.
I fully agree with you about Rafa keeping his dignity (which he does so marvellously in the grand comparison to, let's say, Whingeface Tosspot 'The better team was the one in blue') and he does keep his dignity unlike many other managers around. So he cannot be faulted for a potential one or two mistakes he made about us winning (such as the 4-1 drubbing) 2 years ago. I am sure he has learnt his lesson.

I think that a lot of people are making a mountain out of this molehill of a comment by Mascherano and as I mentioned before, after Sunday, no one will give two hoots about what Mascher said. Molehill -> Mountain. Must be this boring footie Saturday (and the ****ing RAIN!!! )

[sean_lfc]

Winning is a state of mind mate I agree, but you don't have to be blabbing about it you can still believe it.

[SpiritualityModeOn]If you utter it, you are confirming it to the universe. With no doubt creeping into your mind whatsoever and not even entertaining the possibility of one's words being anything but the reality and true, you are manifesting your belief into reality and this in turn will rub off on all the other players to make sure this reality comes true. So all we can do now is thank Mascher for confirming and manifesting what we all know to be true anyway: That we will beat the *****! [/SpiritualityModeOff]

[Johnny]

The two faces of EST.

****ing idiotic comments.

Bollox we are better than them, regardless of what that gob****e says to his team, This is Anfield ! lets go out there and beat the crap of that shoddy team from London ..

Get in there Masher .. fear nobody ... In to battle we go ... I said it before both Champions Lg games against the Chavs

Give them Nothing !! take from them everything !!

Its time for the team to man up, get with the plan and ****ing let them have it big time

**** Chelsea !

Lets put them to the sword ..

Peace and Harmony to all

Don't have a problem with this. He's not questioning their ability, just pointing out that he thinks we'll win. It's the sort of self confidence that our players need if we're going to have a realistic tilt at the prem ' this year.

Mascherano really didn't need to say that I kind of despise him lately. Don't get me wrong, he's a terrific tackler, great fighter etc. But he dives too much for my liking - and that's the thing I absolutely hate in football. Hope he gets this crap out of system as soon as possible, because it really gets on my goddamn tits!

And those comments he made about Chelsea ... Dear God, those comments will fire all those küntz up and I just hope none of them has seen them yet

What's the problem with the comments, lads? It's about time we grew a set of bollocks and started slating them the way they have us in recent years.

Why oh why do ****ing players/managers insist on coming out with bollox like this before we've played?
Keep your ****ing mouth shut and slag them after we've beaten them.
Undignified and totally unneccesary IMO.

Spot on.

JM's teamtalk done for him...

Because i dont believe we should give opponents anything to get their teeth into in terms of motivation, there are many many other things he could have said in that interview.
Get the game won first IMO.

Spot on mate, spot on. We're Liverpool. We're at Anfield and those ****s will get stuffed. **** em. They're ***** and will suffer defeat.

Agreed- shut the **** up and got on with the job in hand, leave the talking till after the ****ing game

Not at all mate! It's a continuing trend with Liverpool players these days that especially before big games when we start giving it the large one so to speak we get beat and beat well. Morientes, Alonso, Garcia in the past have all come out and said stupid things to try and up the anti and it's backfired.

It also makes you look like a dickhead when it does backfire.

The only thing the squad should be concentrating on at the moment is preparing for the game. If Benitez feels mind games are needed let him deal with that.

Bollocks to that mate. Rafa should just come out and say 'We're gonna **** these *****' Just like we do.

What a load of absolute cock custard, idiotic thread ... must be a slow news day ..We are going to stuff Chelsea tormmorow, they can **** off back down to london with prohetic reading material from the Masher ...

I like plasyers talking it up in he papers once they can back it up and thats what we will do ....

Winning is a state of mind

Exactly. Imagine if there was a boxer who come out and waffled on about how it might be a tough fight and he wasnt making any predictions and maybe a draw would do. He get ****in leathered in the ring, he'dve lost before its even started. If we mean business we need to act like it, and making light of Chelsea like they do of us is the way forward.

Winning is a state of mind mate I agree, but you don't have to be blabbing about it you can still believe it.

Let's kick some Chav butt!

El Jefecito is boss!

[Johnny]

Personally i`m happy Rafa is taking the fight to Jose.It`s about time rafa led from the front and the team will be up for it when they see Rafa`s attitude.

[redblood]

When did Rafa utter those comments? Mascher said what he said, and Rafa (as in that other thread) said what he said about Rotation. Let's not get the both confused and start using one for the basis of argument for the other.
I fully agree with you about Rafa keeping his dignity (which he does so marvellously in the grand comparison to, let's say, Whingeface Tosspot 'The better team was the one in blue') and he does keep his dignity unlike many other managers around. So he cannot be faulted for a potential one or two mistakes he made about us winning (such as the 4-1 drubbing) 2 years ago. I am sure he has learnt his lesson.

I think that a lot of people are making a mountain out of this molehill of a comment by Mascherano and as I mentioned before, after Sunday, no one will give two hoots about what Mascher said. Molehill -> Mountain. Must be this boring footie Saturday (and the ****ing RAIN!!! )

Sorry mate I think you misunderstood I wasn't saying Rafa made comments, I was just making a comparison with how he conducts himself and I think our players should follow suit.