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When I took my son to his first game (Liverpool 1 -1 Newcastle, Owen's last goal and Houlliers last game) we had tickets for the back row of the kop in the top corner. It was a scorching day, there was no air up there and the tubed lighting was making it hotter.
People around me were having to get up every few minutes to try and cool down,(the game wasn't bringing us to our feet) we were litterally melting on the plastic seats and the stewards were acting like nazi's.
It was a case of people standing for a few seconds, adjusting their position and sitting back down, it was the back row, no one behind us, and in the corner.
My son stood up to take off his shirt, as most of us already had done and a steward came marching up the steps saying "That's enough, I'm going to have to ask you to leave"
Fortunatly the guys around us who I had never met all stood up and said "Going to throw us all out are you, you toffee nosed prick?" and he went back down the steps.
Rules are rules and I accept that, but sometimes a little common sense wouldn't hurt.CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP DALGLISH!



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I think six nil had more to do with the atmosphere yesterday than the "singing" block. it was the same sort of lesser game atmosphere for the first twenty mins until it became obvious we were going to demolish them.Originally posted by reddragon View Posti'm not in the 'special' block but as a seasie on the Kop for many years I think i'ts a good way forward. I'm the other side to calvoboy [block 201] and the singing over near us is always good anyway, but yesterday I could see the start of a regeneration of atmosphere for the ****e games such as Derby that usually create the 'morgue' like silence we've all been railing against for ages.
Give the lads a break.
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Originally posted by The Glove View PostThats football 'fans' nowadays. 99% are sound but it does only take 1% to **** everything up. It only takes one person to fall/slip to start something terrible. Even in the pic AA keeps putting up as the future. It wont be one seat one person, everyone will crowd with their mates. So when one of them falls, the rest go as well in the sway.
safe standing areas may well happen somewhere in the Premier League in the not-too-distant future - but not at Anfield'Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present.
It was her birthday.
Would I have got married during the football season ?
Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.'
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tbh i thought it was pretty good even in the first 20 mins, but i sit in the famous 201Originally posted by calvoboy View PostI think six nil had more to do with the atmosphere yesterday than the "singing" block. it was the same sort of lesser game atmosphere for the first twenty mins until it became obvious we were going to demolish them.
all i'm trying to say is this: it's a new initiative, and we need to give it time to work. At least these lads in the 1892 block are trying to do something positive, which I, for one, am happy to give them a little leeway for.'Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present.
It was her birthday.
Would I have got married during the football season ?
Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.'
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Originally posted by calvoboy View PostIn my opinion, as a kopite season ticket holder for years - the RTK standing area ticket holders are a complete pain in the arse based on yesterday's "performance". They seem to have taken a singing area to mean a standing area, at all times, regardless of what is happening on the pitch. They sing songs that most people on the kop have long since forgotten (i'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles oh kenny - FFS his last game was in 1990 and he was 39 then - sing one we all know if you want to generate an atmosphere). Most of the kop don't know the words to the obscure songs they sing, and so they kill the atmosphere as much as they generate it. They pick fights with stewards, they sing about "carrying hatchets to bury in your heads", and they argue whenever anyone tells them to behave in anything appraoching an adult manner. In short, they are a pain in the arse, are a throwback to the bad old days, and I hope a few more of the feckers are ejected permanently as the season goes on. The atmosphere yesterday was worse because of them, not better.
god yeah nothing like a bit of singing to ruin an atmosphere :bird:
as for wanting to see them kicked out well that says everything about you really doesnt it
on another note what was different yesterday to chelsea and toulouse
where it was accepted the back of the kop were going to stand.has someone said something?Parry is a clown. En Rafa que confiamos
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I'm not "lost in anything."Originally posted by sonsofthedesert View PostSitting does not stop the atmosphere, think you are lost in this. I believe that singing irrelevent songs or ones that are no longer known is part of the problem. We should have a proper song for every player and try to sing them.
Of course sitting stifles the atmosphere. Even on a basic/boring physical level, you can shout louder if you're standing up, than sitting down because your diaphragm is less restricted (and thats about as much as I'll say on that boring ****.).
And, could you explain what songs are "irrelevant" in your wise and humble opinion? As for "songs that are no longer known" - why don't you get off your arse and bleeding learn them? You know, maybe goto a match and listen and join in? If you don't goto the match (then why are you bothered?), then there's plenty of great Liverpool websites with a song archive. Put the porn to one side for a minute, and learn Liverpool song. Problem solved. They're no harder than the soccer AM bollocks that some have picked up, but they mean a **** load more.
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Agreed mateOriginally posted by The Glove View PostThats football 'fans' nowadays. 99% are sound but it does only take 1% to **** everything up. It only takes one person to fall/slip to start something terrible. Even in the pic AA keeps putting up as the future. It wont be one seat one person, everyone will crowd with their mates. So when one of them falls, the rest go as well in the sway.
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Originally posted by DJS View PostI had an issue with a senior head steward at Sunderland and he told me it was because their safety certificate could be at risk.
He also said, in a trying to be threatening manner, that all it'll mean is that we (LFC) wont get any tickets for next season.
I told him that wouldnt be a problem, as they'll be in the Championship next season.
Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge
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Originally posted by Deadlogic View PostI'm not "lost in anything."
Of course sitting stifles the atmosphere. Even on a basic/boring physical level, you can shout louder if you're standing up, than sitting down because your diaphragm is less restricted (and thats about as much as I'll say on that boring ****.).
And, could you explain what songs are "irrelevant" in your wise and humble opinion? As for "songs that are no longer known" - why don't you get off your arse and bleeding learn them? You know, maybe goto a match and listen and join in? If you don't goto the match (then why are you bothered?), then there's plenty of great Liverpool websites with a song archive. Put the porn to one side for a minute, and learn Liverpool song. Problem solved. They're no harder than the soccer AM bollocks that some have picked up, but they mean a **** load more.
'Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present.
It was her birthday.
Would I have got married during the football season ?
Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.'
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Originally posted by calvoboy View PostThey sing songs that most people on the kop have long since forgotten (i'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles oh kenny - FFS his last game was in 1990 and he was 39 then - sing one we all know if you want to generate an atmosphere). Most of the kop don't know the words to the obscure songs they sing, and so they kill the atmosphere as much as they generate it.Relevant would be singing about todays players.Originally posted by Deadlogic View PostI'm not "lost in anything."
Of course sitting stifles the atmosphere. Even on a basic/boring physical level, you can shout louder if you're standing up, than sitting down because your diaphragm is less restricted (and thats about as much as I'll say on that boring ****.).
And, could you explain what songs are "irrelevant" in your wise and humble opinion? As for "songs that are no longer known" - why don't you get off your arse and bleeding learn them? You know, maybe goto a match and listen and join in? If you don't goto the match (then why are you bothered?), then there's plenty of great Liverpool websites with a song archive. Put the porn to one side for a minute, and learn Liverpool song. Problem solved. They're no harder than the soccer AM bollocks that some have picked up, but they mean a **** load more.
So how have you decided that I don't go matches and don't sing, that's an assumption on your part. I have a season ticket and sing whenever possible.
So your argument was just insults. I peronally hated against the chavs the way most of the time we sung about them instead of us, we are Liverpool that should not happen. We should have songs for every player but we don't.
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How does restircting the diaphragm when people sit have anything to do with loads of people not singing at all, I could understand if that wa your argument for people singing in a quiter manner but actually singing.Originally posted by Deadlogic View Post
Of course sitting stifles the atmosphere. Even on a basic/boring physical level, you can shout louder if you're standing up, than sitting down because your diaphragm is less restricted (and thats about as much as I'll say on that boring ****.).
The simple fact here is that we are talking about loads of people turning up for some games and not singing what so ever so you argument is irrelevent.
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