english players at LFC

[dww]

Or follow the continental route of playing reserve teams in League 2. At least then young players are playing proper competetive footie.

What does it matter if there's quality coming through anyway? The English FA always appoint a clown to manage the team meaning that they never stand the chance of winning anything.

England have had a great pool of players for about 6 years now and what have they done?

I just don't think it could work (at least in the short term, I guess in future financial problems in the lower leagues might make it a possibility) due to the way that people in this country support teams. The fact that many continental teams are based around a more local sports club philosophy means that they were placed better to use the many teams from one setup model.

A big problem with the England team for years has been that players have relatively poor tactical knowledge and weaker basic technical skills than their international peers - in crunch situations this is what counts.

W/O merging the leagues the reserves don't even play enough games!!!!!!

I wasn't disagreeing with that, just saying that it could only be part of any solution.

[kurtangle01]

A big problem with the England team for years has been that players have relatively poor tactical knowledge and weaker basic technical skills than their international peers - in crunch situations this is what counts.

That's a very good point. If you take teams like France, Portugal and Spain for example I would say that England are quite far behind in terms of techinical ability and tactical knowledge.

It doesn't help either that England have a manager who has absolutely no tactical ability whatsoever.

[GreystonesLFC_WTF]

a liverpool B team can't replace teams with 100 yr histories

You talkin' about Everton or Tranmere?


Sorry!

[Red_Polo]

The only reason managers sign so many foreign players is because for the same money they are unable to get English players of the same quality. Personally I think it's a good thing that players are bought on merit rather than nationality so I don't have a problem with that. If the England team is **** for any single reason then it's because of the lack of emphasis on technical ability. The England team was **** and struggling to qualify for tournaments long before the influx of foreigners started.

[sean_lfc]

Aw Polso, you speak mucho sense

[peekay]

Anyone think this lack of English players playing in top 4 clubs is gonna get worse with the top 4 raiding the best talent from spain,portugal,argentina and brazil at minimal prices. Most of our academies are filled with the best talent from other countries.

[Howard_lfc]

The difference is that they cost a few million less than their even more **** british equivalents. All british players are overpriced - look how much Bent went for. The real money that goes out of our game doesn't go abroad, it goes on players wages. And the last time I looked the decent British players have all set up offshore companies so they pay less tax than a British working family. Sorry mate, that is bollocks.

I know what the difference is Venton - and its been that way for years now and something should have been done about it. It's too late now.
I agree that a large amount of money goes in players wages but the recent revelations be Deloitte and Touche said that (approx.) £250m went abroad to foreign clubs - which is around half of the total money spent on transfers for the year. THat's not speculation - that's fact. You may think it's bollox - but it's still a fact.

[fred_plasticine]

there's loads of british talent all over the academies they just don't seem to make the grade. lack of talent? maybe ... but maybe it's just that they don't have the 'right' mentality and are more interested in nights out on the piss, lasses and cars when instead they should be thinnking about their football and football only. you wanna be a top pro in sports then get you head down forget about going clubbing every other day.
interesting how they are all talented at 15 and released at around 18 ...

[The Glove]

there's loads of british talent all over the academies they just don't seem to make the grade. lack of talent? maybe ... but maybe it's just that they don't have the 'right' mentality and are more interested in nights out on the piss, lasses and cars when instead they should be thinnking about their football and football only. you wanna be a top pro in sports then get you head down forget about going clubbing every other day.
interesting how they are all talented at 15 and released at around 18 ...

A great point.

[Howard_lfc]

there's loads of british talent all over the academies they just don't seem to make the grade. lack of talent? maybe ... but maybe it's just that they don't have the 'right' mentality and are more interested in nights out on the piss, lasses and cars when instead they should be thinnking about their football and football only. you wanna be a top pro in sports then get you head down forget about going clubbing every other day.
interesting how they are all talented at 15 and released at around 18 ...

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation eh?

[fred_plasticine]

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation eh?

maybe.

"There were always players that were as good as me when I was younger but they did not have the right mentality to progress - there were other things on their mind."

micah richards column on bbc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6939151.stm

[Howard_lfc]

maybe.

"There were always players that were as good as me when I was younger but they did not have the right mentality to progress - there were other things on their mind."

micah richards column on bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6939151.stm

It's a good quote from Richards and will ultimately be true in some cases. However - I don't believe that its the reason for the lack of quality english players around.

[The Glove]

I do. I can easily believe that they want the good life without working for as hard as other top flight footballers from abroad do.

Look at how much players in lower leagues earn. They are still getting a fair old whack and gives them the lifestyle they want without having to push themselves harder.

[fred_plasticine]

It's a good quote from Richards and will ultimately be true in some cases. However - I don't believe that its the reason for the lack of quality english players around.

i didn't say that, did i? but it's obviously one of the reasons.

it's the national team trying to blame the clubs for their own failings. as if the clubs wouldn't do their best to bring homegrown player through. there's something rotten with the youth system in england but everyone rather turns a blind eye on it and blames the foreign influx. doesn't come as a surprise though, does it? it's the easy way but won't change a thing.

[Pacman]

i didn't say that, did i? but it's obviously one of the reasons.

it's the national team trying to blame the clubs for their own failings. as if the clubs wouldn't do their best to bring homegrown player through. there's something rotten with the youth system in england but everyone rather turns a blind eye on it and blames the foreign influx. doesn't come as a surprise though, does it? it's the easy way but won't change a thing.

I think the coaching has a lot to do with it.

The football club I played for all my life until I retired at the end of last season (aged 28 ) has a chartered academy. It gets funding from the English FA but it has to follow their syllabus. They have to have fully qualified coaches and the age groups must range from under 6 to under 18. Anyway at the minute the syllabus is all centred round games and game situations instead of working on technique. It's funny because I heard Trevor Brooking going on about on Sky today however our club have been saying it for the past couple of years. Kids should work on technical ability at a young age and this isn't happening.