Xabi Alonso and our lack of goals

[fred_plasticine]

That's lovely. It just so happens that he did play and carved absolutely **** all.

Xabi would have had little or no impact on how many goals we score. Just like he had the season before and the season before that.

Anyway - as you were...

i agree he wouldn't have any impact on the goal scoring front - however it's fair to assume that neither spurs nor marseille would have dominated our midfield had he been on the pitch. we couldn't string two passes together at times and seemed to rush things whenever we were on the ball, hence giving it away needlessly. xabi would have calmed our play down to positive effect. even though i've been critical of his form of late, especially his long range passing, it is more than obvious that there is so much more to his game than the odd through ball. tactically he's second to none in our squad.

[CAD]

i agree he wouldn't have any impact on the goal scoring front - however it's fair to assume that neither spurs nor marseille would have dominated our midfield had he been on the pitch. we couldn't string two passes together at times and seemed to rush things whenever we were on the ball, hence giving it away needlessly. xabi would have calmed our play down to positive effect. even though i've been critical of his form of late, especially his long range passing, it is more than obvious that there is so much more to his game than the odd through ball. tactically he's second to none in our squad.

So you saying we would have beaten Pompey with him on the field?

I think we're missing Agger more than Alonso for reason mentiond above. We are missing Alonso as an option as well, obviously.

Alonso of the Prozac this season would have been great. Alonso as of last season would have made no difference.

We will see against the Bitters, won't we?

[Dhav]

The more I think about it the more I agree with my Manc supporting boss that Xabi is the most underrated player in the league.

Xabi

:bird:

Do you know what, the fact that anyone has to come on a Liverpool board and defend one of the club's most important and influential players to supposedly the "most knowledgeable fans in the country" is, quite frankly, pathetic. Seems to me that Liverpool fans who can't understand Xabi's worth to the team obviously know nothing about football.

It's a sad day when a Manc can appreciate the value of Xabi and our own supporters cannot.

[mancdetester]

I can see people wanking on about him because the bad results happens to coincide with Alonso missing.

I can see people writing that we would have carved Pompey a new hole if he had been ready. He actually did play. So thats wank and nothing else.

I think losing Agger has hurt us more as we have lesser cover for his position.

Of course I can see the importance of Alonso but you people are overemphasizing it and acting like he's the Messias. He's not. There is little he could have done to make us look better forward. What did he do for us against Pompey? He played the HM and he did very little for us going forward. He would have played HM in the other matches as well with 90% certainty = Little impact up field. Look at his stats for goals and assists as a HM and you will see the picture.

And take your and shove it up your ass.

Alonso runs the game from the back , dictates tempo etc.
Why can you see that?

[Dhav]

Alonso runs the game from the back , dictates tempo etc.
Why can you see that?

Don't bother mate, they're either blinded by their anti-Alonso agenda or just know very little about football.

[mancdetester]

:bird:

Do you know what, the fact that anyone has to come on a Liverpool board and defend one of the club's most important and influential players to supposedly the "most knowledgeable fans in the country" is, quite frankly, pathetic. Seems to me that Liverpool fans who can't understand Xabi's worth to the team obviously know nothing about football.

It's a sad day when a Manc can appreciate the value of Xabi and our own supporters cannot.

is correct

[mancdetester]

bang on fella well said

****ing ass-:whatever: licker

[redlancer]

he's also the one Rafa speaks to during the match.

As has been said by a few here I think our best CM pairing is Alonso and Masser - This give Alonso the chance to take the ball off the back 4 but then also push forward during attacks. Stevie has to be the free role player or wide right.

[fred_plasticine]

So you saying we would have beaten Pompey with him on the field?

didn't say that, did i?

[CAD]

didn't say that, did i?

No - that's why there was a with the sentence.

[kewellnthegang]

:bird:

Do you know what, the fact that anyone has to come on a Liverpool board and defend one of the club's most important and influential players to supposedly the "most knowledgeable fans in the country" is, quite frankly, pathetic. Seems to me that Liverpool fans who can't understand Xabi's worth to the team obviously know nothing about football.

It's a sad day when a Manc can appreciate the value of Xabi and our own supporters cannot.

he is a good player yeah but as has been said one or two wettin themselves cos he is out and saying he is better than he is

you can count on one hand his good game s in the last 18 months

but dont for one minute have me down as someone who goes the game and moans there thanks very much

and i will have my opinion you have yours

[CAD]

****ing ass-:whatever: licker

Give it a rest.

[kewellnthegang]

****ing ass-:whatever: licker

cheers

[Dhav]

he's also the one Rafa speaks to during the match.

As has been said by a few here I think our best CM pairing is Alonso and Masser - This give Alonso the chance to take the ball off the back 4 but then also push forward during attacks. Stevie has to be the free role player or wide right.

Indeed - and why is it that Rafa's instructions go direct to Xabi? He and Carra have the sharpest footballing minds in the team.

Also agree with Gerrard being given the free role or wide right (which has been a de facto free role whenever he has played there). Gerrard doesn't have the discipline I think to play in rigid formations.

[Dhav]

he is a good player yeah but as has been said one or two wettin themselves cos he is out and saying he is better than he is

you can count on one hand his good game s in the last 18 months

but dont for one minute have me down as someone who goes the game and moans there thanks very much

and i will have my opinion you have yours

Well I don't think anyone on here has over-exaggerated his importance to the side, but that is my opinion of course.

And I didn't mean to imply you moan at the match either. I just feel Xabi's importance is underestimated. Even when playing poorly he can be influential, and we do miss him when he's out. We have been so disjointed the last few games, and that's something we rarely are when Xabi's in the team, and I think it's no coincidence.

In any case, thank you for making a considered response for a change instead of just laughing at someone's post.