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    #46
    Originally posted by DJS View Post
    That doesnt mean we should be robots and exstinguish all opinions and impressions...
    It also doesnt mean we should be pessimistic about our future talent based on a few games.......

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      #47
      Originally posted by DJS View Post
      Even at a young age, those players will usually have a spark about them, signs of quality. I've seen none from Leto. Disagree with me by all means, but that's how i see it.
      Brazilian top flight player of the year at his age, is enough to suggest to me that he has the ability to make it at LFC. My only worry is, Rafa coaches his natural instinct out of him. Then again, Alonso and Mascher seem to be flourishing.
      Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
      'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

      "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

      * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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        #48
        Originally posted by Quinncy View Post
        It also doesnt mean we should be pessimistic about our future talent based on a few games.......
        It's quite simple quinncy, few games or not, we all form early impressions, which arent scripted, they're just based on what we've seen and what it's made us think.

        I have my opinion, you have yours.

        The end.

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          #49
          Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
          Brazilian top flight player of the year at his age, is enough to suggest to me that he has the ability to make it at LFC. My only worry is, Rafa coaches his natural instinct out of him. Then again, Alonso and Mascher seem to be flourishing.
          Mascher and Alonso arent really particularly attacking players.

          And i've never been concerned with what players have done in other countries, it means nothing within the context of LFC.

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            #50
            What a surprise DJS is complaining about something to do with LFC
            **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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              #51
              Originally posted by DJS View Post
              Even at a young age, those players will usually have a spark about them, signs of quality. I've seen none from Leto. Disagree with me by all means, but that's how i see it.
              There was certainly no "spark" about carra when he came through. He was awful. Leto shows plenty of "spark" in the reserves, the difference between you and me is in all reasonableness that I'm prepared to give a kid a chance, whereas you, based on nothing but a gut instinct from the other side of the world have written him off.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Tom View Post
                There was certainly no "spark" about carra when he came through. He was awful. Leto shows plenty of "spark" in the reserves, the difference between you and me is in all reasonableness that I'm prepared to give a kid a chance, whereas you, based on nothing but a gut instinct from the other side of the world have written him off.
                Oh fecking hell...

                I'm not saying he doesnt have a chance, i'm just saying that i havent seen anything to get excited about with him. Fecking well sue me...

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                  What a surprise DJS is complaining about something to do with LFC
                  I'm not complaining about anything yellow-head...

                  It's a discussion about young players and i've just posted what i think.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by red g View Post
                    so did neil mellor
                    Yeah, and he got his chance to come through and wasn't quite up to it. He was given his chance though, if he hadn't had we'd never know either way would we?

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Tom View Post
                      Yeah, and he got his chance to come through and wasn't quite up to it. He was given his chance though, if he hadn't had we'd never know either way would we?
                      Fantastically comic way of looking at it.

                      Actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by DJS View Post
                        Oh fecking hell...

                        I'm not saying he doesnt have a chance, i'm just saying that i havent seen anything to get excited about with him. Fecking well sue me...
                        Actually you said "no signs of quality", you compared him to gonzalez and you suggested that we overpaid 20m for the three new players, ergo:
                        You don't rate him.

                        My argument with you is that you can't possibly tell yet as simply you haven't seen enough of him.

                        I wouldn't waste my money suing you, you're not worth it

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by DJS View Post
                          I'm not complaining about anything yellow-head...

                          It's a discussion about young players and i've just posted what i think.
                          But it's always negative.

                          Like me you've probably watched Leto in the stiffs and I think he's looked a real talent. He's impressed me more than Lucas did when he has played. He has got more tricks than most of our first team players, he can beat a man, has a bit of pace and looks like he isn't afraid to work hard. Yes he is still a little rough around the edges however give him this season and next season and lets see what he can do. I really do think this kid is going to make it.
                          **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Tom View Post
                            Actually you said "no signs of quality", you compared him to gonzalez and you suggested that we overpaid 20m for the three new players, ergo:
                            You don't rate him.

                            My argument with you is that you can't possibly tell yet as simply you haven't seen enough of him.

                            I wouldn't waste my money suing you, you're not worth it
                            Based on what i've seen, there's been no sign of quality and thus far, he doesnt seem to have been a worthwhile signing. So thus far no, i dont rate him.

                            I AM allowed to think that, you know...

                            I havent seen enough of him, but as i said before, we ALL form early impressions, whether we want to or not. You dont watch a player and sit there like a drone with no opinion whatsoever about what you've seen....well, actually you might well do

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                              But it's always negative.

                              Like me you've probably watched Leto in the stiffs and I think he's looked a real talent. He's impressed me more than Lucas did when he has played. He has got more tricks than most of our first team players, he can beat a man, has a bit of pace and looks like he isn't afraid to work hard. Yes he is still a little rough around the edges however give him this season and next season and lets see what he can do. I really do think this kid is going to make it.
                              Reserve level doesnt mean a lot to me mate.

                              And it's not always negative, it was only the other day i was saying how much i am in love with Torres

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by DJS View Post
                                Based on what i've seen, there's been no sign of quality and thus far, he doesnt seem to have been a worthwhile signing. So thus far no, i dont rate him.

                                I AM allowed to think that, you know...

                                I havent seen enough of him, but as i said before, we ALL form early impressions, whether we want to or not. You dont watch a player and sit there like a drone with no opinion whatsoever about what you've seen....well, actually you might well do
                                You're right, I tend to avoid instant appraisals of people, that doesn't make me a "drone", quite the opposite

                                I have seen enough of you over the years to have informed an opinion though

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