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Paul.S
I disagree. We can still win the league from the position we are in, we can't win the CL if we go out on Tuesday.
Well it all comes down to priorities t be honest. The PL should be our priority. The CL....been there done that. Yes it would be nice to win again but I'd much rather we beat Reading and then Manure.
Tuesday may be more important but I would like someone to explain the theory behind having Crouch playing left-wing which is what his position was today during the first-half. That's the ideal position for Babel as it's where he grew up playing for Ajax, in this sort of formation. I'm a Crouch fan but it was barmy to have him on the pitch in that role.
Some years ago after lurking for some time i finally posted demanding an apology from rafa, infact imo he should have been begging for forgiveness in the centre circle.
Today was a disgrace, we were not unlucky, rafa reminds me so much of ranieri. he can't help himself. We will never win the league under rafa. it doesn't matter if we beat the scum next week these are the games we should win if ever to hope to compete.
Sissoko is a disgrace, remind me who joined the vermin fan club and as for playing crouch left wing ffs which clown decided that.
disgraceful team selection today. Under Rafa we'll never be anything more than a cup team.
And for all our deluded fans who think Reading are a decent team or the ref was to blame or we were unlucky as we hit the woodwork twice..bollocks!!
True, it doesn't alter the ridiculous criticism of Voronin. Voronin, Voronin was one of our better players today imo.
How many matches has Voronin produced GREAT display? 2 maybe? And even a great display for him is an average display by a good handful of others. Bottom line is he aint good enough mate.
What about Gerrard not tracking the Reading player which lead to Carragher hacking him down.
What about the shocking defending on the free kick for there 2nd...far too ****ing deep, didn't give Reina a chance.
What about the dreadful defending for Harper's goal??? Let him run half the pitch, 3 or 4 Liverpool players there to track him but every ****ing one of them gave it up.
No proper effort apart from Arberloa.
Do they want to challenge for this title or not? On today's evidence they don't.
Really cheesed off right now.
Should be beating teams like Reading, we underestimated them and got what we deserved as a result.
Also, no way should Stevie have tackled Hunt for the freekick that lead to their second goal. Hunt, at best, was going to the by-line to swing one in that we would probably have dealt with.
Stevie shouldn't have lunged in he was to far back and was never going to win that tackle.
Well it all comes down to priorities t be honest. The PL should be our priority. The CL....been there done that. Yes it would be nice to win again but I'd much rather we beat Reading and then Manure.
I know what you meant mate but I think it would be a bigger blow if we lost to Marseille. Go out the CL and the "Rafa to be sacked" will come up again and I could see it happening if we did. There's the increased money from the CL thing too.
How many matches has Voronin produced GREAT display? 2 maybe? And even a great display for him is an average display by a good handful of others. Bottom line is he aint good enough mate.
No way near as bad as you make out and he is good enough, maybe not week in week out, but he can do a job for us.
everything was bad and every thing went wrong, their pen was out side the box, i though we should have had a peno when they tackled torres. they where very physical. rafas team selection was poor but that was still no excuse for how the the players performed, not everything is down to the manager, but i'm sure he blames himself.
today was a bad day...
"I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
"You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto
I'm not complaining. Its worrying to see that when we are boosting ourselves up and the media saying '21 in 5' cliche, we don't look to come to the fore. We can't handle the pressure of the expectations of the media and the fans. Its a mental barrier, the Marseille game will be a great chance for the players and especially RAFA to prove the media and us wrong.
5 Live reporting Torres is not doing the warm down. Could be injured.
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