Rafa The Man

[Dhav]

Erm...the season AFTER he got us 82 points, he got us 68....

That's a backwards step (or fourteen) is it not?

If you were running Arsenal you'd have probably sacked Wenger by now. An 82 point haul in his second season in charge is proof that he knows the league and can make us challengers.

[Revo]

Newell is at Anfield near enough every game nowadays. Sits in with some of the powers that were/be.

[The Glove]

Do you think we're just ****e and should be getting the bus out for an FA Cup triumph?

What do you mean about getting the bus out?

[Kilteragh]

Newell is at Anfield near enough every game nowadays. Sits in with some of the powers that were/be.

Quite happy to admit I could be wrong then but I've always thought he was too quick to shoot his mouth off and then had nothing to back it up.

[Craig_H]

If you were running Arsenal you'd have probably sacked Wenger by now. An 82 point haul in his second season in charge is proof that he knows the league and can make us challengers.

So he can, but isnt...

Hmm...

[anfieldanfield]

If you were running Arsenal you'd have probably sacked Wenger by now.

Didn't Wenger win the title in his second season ?

[Craig_H]

Didn't Wenger win the title in his second season ?

Hehe...first FULL season, he won the double....but yeah but...erm...forget that...

[Sir Bob]

I think people are missing the point here.

The problems we've got are not about needing another 2 or 3 players. The club is in turmoil off the pitch in my view and a divided club wins nothing. G&H want Rafa out because he challenged them publically over their handling of the club. We've got the best manager we've had in 20 years and 2 yanks sitting 6000 miles away who know NOTHING about LFC or football will get shut of him because as an employee he dared to challenge them.

In my view Rafa will go and the whole thing will start again. Trouble is i'm not sure changing the owners will help much as i've no faith that DIC or whoever will be any better. The LFC we all grew up with has gone, we are now a corporate brand whose owners are there primarily to make cash not win trophies. Rafa has been given neither the time nor money required and thats the 1st time thats happened since Adam was a lad. In my view we'd better get used to it because thats the world we entered when Moores sold up.

[Howard_lfc]

Top four is minimum. Obviously I want more but I'm prepared to wait and see how things pan out over the next season or two before I make a judgement.

Wow you have the patience of a saint young man. Well done.

I wish I shared your optimism/faith Scott but I'm afraid I don't.

[paulcooper4]

I think people are missing the point here.

The problems we've got are not about needing another 2 or 3 players. The club is in turmoil off the pitch in my view and a divided club wins nothing. G&H want Rafa out because he challenged them publically over their handling of the club. We've got the best manager we've had in 20 years and 2 yanks sitting 6000 miles away who know NOTHING about LFC or football will get shut of him because as an employee he dared to challenge them.

In my view Rafa will go and the whole thing will start again. Trouble is i'm not sure changing the owners will help much as i've no faith that DIC or whoever will be any better. The LFC we all grew up with has gone, we are now a corporate brand whose owners are there primarily to make cash not win trophies. Rafa has been given neither the time nor money required and thats the 1st time thats happened since Adam was a lad. In my view we'd better get used to it because thats the world we entered when Moores sold up.

[MerseyCider]

Oh boy, all the excuses are coming out in this thread...1 question Rafa backers:

Do we win the league under Benitez (if he stays on) in the next 3 seasons?

[paulcooper4]

Oh boy, all the excuses are coming out in this thread...1 question Rafa backers:

Do we win the league under Benitez (if he stays on) in the next 3 seasons?

rafa backer??? is backing your manager meant to be some kind of ****ing insult now?:whatever:

In answer to your question, who the **** knows? hopefully yes, I see no reason why we wouldnt eventually

[MerseyCider]

Hopefully

Exactly. We should be expected to take at least 1 title every 3 years. Rafa gives me no confidence domestically im afriad.

[kurtangle01]

Wow you have the patience of a saint young man. Well done.

I wish I shared your optimism/faith Scott but I'm afraid I don't.

Success is measured over time and so far he hasn't done to bad so what's to say that he wont do well in the future?

That's my view anyway.

[paulcooper4]

Hopefully

Exactly. We should be expected to take at least 1 title every 3 years. Rafa gives me no confidence domestically im afriad.

I expect a title every 1 year fella, dunno where you get this 1 in 3 years bollocks?

But im not that much of a stupid cunt to not realise we havent won it for nearly 18 years and its slightly harder than you are making it sound to win the league.