Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[dww]

Did Utd Scum not have a **** season when Fergie was meant to be leaving, But ofcourse it doesnt affect players does it, WE can't use it as an excuse, i seem to remember all the media using it as one for those ******s.

It is true but irrelevant of the uncertainty around the club we need to perform better. I couldn't care less what the media say about us so long as we use it correctly to build a siege mentality and come out of the current crisis stronger.

The problem is that our problems at the minute off the field may go on long term. There is not necessarily going to be a quick fix in the style of Fergie's decision to stay on and we have to start dealing with things as they are.

[Red Chilli]

Brinkmanship



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[Tee]

Is there any significance in the fact that Gillett and DIC been completely silent on this whole matter?

[Red Chilli]

Is there any significance in the fact that Gillett and DIC been completely silent on this whole matter?

No

[Neil Young]

Is there any significance in the fact that Gillett and DIC been completely silent on this whole matter?

I don't know. What significance would you like to read into it?

[Jayesh87]

Is there any significance in the fact that Gillett and DIC been completely silent on this whole matter?

No, Its just DIC learning from last time when they were constatly in the media and GG learning from his dumbass partner how not to go blabbing to the press.

[Imy]

Is there any significance in the fact that Gillett and DIC been completely silent on this whole matter?

Their silence maybe because there is nothing to comment on, and all this takeover talk is idle wild speculation.

[Tee]

I don't know. What significance would you like to read into it?

Gillett agreeing to sell his share to DIC, and just waiting for the other prick to cave in? Maybe.

[Red Chilli]

Gillett agreeing to sell his share to DIC, and just waiting for the other prick to cave in? Maybe.

Nah, doubt it

[Vermilion]

It is true but irrelevant of the uncertainty around the club we need to perform better. I couldn't care less what the media say about us so long as we use it correctly to build a siege mentality and come out of the current crisis stronger.

The problem is that our problems at the minute off the field may go on long term. There is not necessarily going to be a quick fix in the style of Fergie's decision to stay on and we have to start dealing with things as they are.

[ntto]

How would people feel if DIC came in and bought the club and then leveraged some of the purchase as debt on the clubs balance?

I know that sometimes it's good business practice to do this as debt can sometimes be cheaper than using cash to buy something.

Very basic example, if I wanted to purchase a house and I had the cash available to buy it outright, I still might want a mortgage at 6% interest and invest my money elsewhere to get a higher than 6% return. At the end of the term I can pay off the debt and have more money left over than the original purchase price.

DIC could buy the club for £350million, get a load for £250m (against the club) and use £100 of their own money. Fund the stadium and the squad seperately while helping with the interest payments on the £250 loan.

I'm just concerned that a lot of emphasis is being placed on not loading debt onto the club when actually thats exactly what DIC could do.

[disco]

Apologies if this has been discussed earlier in the thread - but I hope you'll understand that 3,000-odd posts is a lot to scour....

With the absolute assumption that anything would be better than the debacle being played out at the moment and that the Americans are probably not the right owners for this club, would anybody like to propose what the future holds with DIC? Could we be going over the same (rose-tinted) ground as before the U.S. group took over?

Seems to me that DIC taking over means:

1. funds for stadium = good

2. probable funds for players = good

3. acknowledgement of the clubs special position in Liverpool itself as well as in the wider sporting world = good

4. longer-term intentions....

I think #4 needs some consideration. Off course it's unlikely that anyone on here has any real insight into what DIC's plans would be but are there any prior Mahktoum(sp?) investments upon which we might gauge what a possible 5-10 year plan of theirs might look like? Are their horse-racing interests a valid comparison? Would we see DIC still involved beyond 10 years?

Should we be concerned?

I unfortunately posted just before RS4's rant ( - only kidding mate, fair play for speaking your mind. A lot of what you said rang true )

DIC are a Private Equity company.
PE companies buy companies using lots of debt and not much capital
They then turn the business around and sell for a massive profit after anything from 3-10 years.
So...... other than having more money themselves (which might be the clincher for a lot of people here) they're still going to have a lot of debt and not much capital - it's a business afterall.

If you've seen Charlie Wilson's war there's a very good point about thinking something is for the best, but not-many-years-later realising its not.

I'm not saying DIC aren't better than G&H, just forewarning that may be not much will change....

[Red Chilli]

How would people feel if DIC came in and bought the club and then leveraged some of the purchase as debt on the clubs balance?

I know that sometimes it's good business practice to do this as debt can sometimes be cheaper than using cash to buy something.

Very basic example, if I wanted to purchase a house and I had the cash available to buy it outright, I still might want a mortgage at 6% interest and invest my money elsewhere to get a higher than 6% return. At the end of the term I can pay off the debt and have more money left over than the original purchase price.

DIC could buy the club for £350million, get a load for £250m (against the club) and use £100 of their own money. Fund the stadium and the squad seperately while helping with the interest payments on the £250 loan.

I'm just concerned that a lot of emphasis is being placed on not loading debt onto the club when actually thats exactly what DIC could do.

Nothing wrong with that, no problem at all.

However, if DIC come in, saddle the club with debt and then try and use the club's turnover to finance that debt without putting their hands in their pockets to provide transfer fuds, then I will feel the same about them as I do H&G.

[disco]

How would people feel if DIC came in and bought the club and then leveraged some of the purchase as debt on the clubs balance?

I know that sometimes it's good business practice to do this as debt can sometimes be cheaper than using cash to buy something.

Very basic example, if I wanted to purchase a house and I had the cash available to buy it outright, I still might want a mortgage at 6% interest and invest my money elsewhere to get a higher than 6% return. At the end of the term I can pay off the debt and have more money left over than the original purchase price.

DIC could buy the club for £350million, get a load for £250m (against the club) and use £100 of their own money. Fund the stadium and the squad seperately while helping with the interest payments on the £250 loan.

I'm just concerned that a lot of emphasis is being placed on not loading debt onto the club when actually thats exactly what DIC could do.

LOL mate, beat me to it

[Whelan5]

How would people feel if DIC came in and bought the club and then leveraged some of the purchase as debt on the clubs balance?

I know that sometimes it's good business practice to do this as debt can sometimes be cheaper than using cash to buy something.

Very basic example, if I wanted to purchase a house and I had the cash available to buy it outright, I still might want a mortgage at 6% interest and invest my money elsewhere to get a higher than 6% return. At the end of the term I can pay off the debt and have more money left over than the original purchase price.

DIC could buy the club for £350million, get a load for £250m (against the club) and use £100 of their own money. Fund the stadium and the squad seperately while helping with the interest payments on the £250 loan.

I'm just concerned that a lot of emphasis is being placed on not loading debt onto the club when actually thats exactly what DIC could do.

I have absolutely no problem with them putting some debt on the club as long as they also make a significant investment themselves, one thing i suspect is that we will never hear about their debt as it will be done with one of their state banks not RBS or the likes.

I know a lot of Man Utd fans were upset with the Glaziers and the debt but they have backed their manager massively in the transfer market and the complaints aren't being heard now.