Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[el matador]

these people will never,evr stump up their own personal cash for this club,not for players,not for the stadium, nada.

if people havent realised that by now,they need to read up about the history of these men.they specialise in leveraged buyout, USING other people and the assets they buy to keep them afloat until they can sell or run the asset into the ground.

its their in black and white,not specualtion, fact.

surely its time we all agree, they have nothing to offer us.

hicks is the much heralded 'leveraged buy out king' whereas Gillett tends to be a bit more diplomatic in his ownership of his clubs. Hence why hicks has made himself look like an arse in the media and gillett is nowhere to be seen.

I think we need to hear what Gillett has to say for himself. He has taken a lot of stick on this theme and rightly so - but he needs to come out and explain himself to the fans in this time of unrest. There is no point burying you head in the sand and hoping things turn out ok - that's what parry's there for.

Its shocking that this topic has not just divided the club but also the support - ive never known things to be so fractious...

we need to stick together and get back our club because these two will ruin it - of that there is no doubt.

[Alpha]

hicks is the much heralded 'leveraged buy out king' whereas Gillett tends to be a bit more diplomatic in his ownership of his clubs. Hence why hicks has made himself look like an arse in the media and gillett is nowhere to be seen.

I think we need to hear what Gillett has to say for himself. He has taken a lot of stick on this theme and rightly so - but he needs to come out and explain himself to the fans in this time of unrest. There is no point burying you head in the sand and hoping things turn out ok - that's what parry's there for.

Its shocking that this topic has not just divided the club but also the support - ive never known things to be so fractious...

we need to stick together and get back our club because these two will ruin it - of that there is no doubt.

I think Gillett's continued silence can only indicate that negotiations over at least his stake in the club are ongoing.

He will be as aware as the rest of us that the supporters need and deserve to be addressed. That means there must be a damn good reason why he is staying tightlipped in the meantime.

[disco]

I think Gillett's continued silence can only indicate that negotiations over at least his stake in the club are ongoing.

He will be as aware as the rest of us that the supporters need and deserve to be addressed. That means there must be a damn good reason why he is staying tightlipped in the meantime.

True, or quite simply that he doesn't approve of the financing, but has to go along with it anyway. A silent protest, so to speak.

[StevieG08]

If LFC can't pay the debt it doesn't really matter. They will have to fund us whatever way you look at it. They will carry us until the stadium is in place an sell us to the higgest bidder. Romantic, no. Realistic, yes.

You just have to acknowledge that we won't move forward until the stadium is in place and the revenue goes up.

This is about Moores and his incompetence. The rest is silence.

It's no good though people will still say it's not his fault because he's 'one of us'

[CrazyHorse]

we need to stick together and get back our club because these two will ruin it - of that there is no doubt.

although i really dont care what gillette does,he invited this plague on our club by bringing in hicks - knowing his history.hes guilty by association,and i dont care if he never speaks again.

until we find out the truth about parry and moores actions in the last 12 months - wether they have been defending the club in boardroom stand offs etc, ill reserve my hatred for them.altho moores should be shot for even thinking of selling to hicks - i refuse to believe he didnt know this mans history,no one that successful could be that dumb.i truely have to question his real passion for lfc because of this.

[StevieG08]

hicks is the much heralded 'leveraged buy out king' whereas Gillett tends to be a bit more diplomatic in his ownership of his clubs. Hence why hicks has made himself look like an arse in the media and gillett is nowhere to be seen.

I think we need to hear what Gillett has to say for himself. He has taken a lot of stick on this theme and rightly so - but he needs to come out and explain himself to the fans in this time of unrest. There is no point burying you head in the sand and hoping things turn out ok - that's what parry's there for.

Its shocking that this topic has not just divided the club but also the support - ive never known things to be so fractious...

we need to stick together and get back our club because these two will ruin it - of that there is no doubt.

How would you suggest we go about 'getting back' our club, personally speaking i was never a shareholder in the first place and lack the funds for a hostile take over. The moment Moores decided to sell we were always at risk of this happening.

If people really think that Hicks will be swayed by a few thousand fans singing songs on the Kop then you really should look at how long he's held onto his other teams in the face of fan protest.

He doesn't give a **** for the run of the mill fan and lets face it those who campaign at Anfield are still paying to be there so i would suggest the only people it effects are the team and other supporters.

[homer1]

True, or quite simply that he doesn't approve of the financing, but has to go along with it anyway. A silent protest, so to speak.

But if it's a 50/50 partnership, how come it looks as though Hicks is making all the decisions - how the financing was arranged, the architects for the stadium ....... doesn't make sense

[CrazyHorse]

How would you suggest we go about 'getting back' our club, personally speaking i was never a shareholder in the first place and lack the funds for a hostile take over. The moment Moores decided to sell we were always at risk of this happening.

If people really think that Hicks will be swayed by a few thousand fans singing songs on the Kop then you really should look at how long he's held onto his other teams in the face of fan protest.

He doesn't give a **** for the run of the mill fan and lets face it those who campaign at Anfield are still paying to be there so i would suggest the only people it effects are the team and other supporters.

instead of trying to pull apart other people efforts to unite our support against these vultures,how about you make some suggestions on how we might save our club? besides 'give the maricans a chance'. not gonna wash with me,or quite a few more than a 'few thousand' proud lfc fans - the true custodians of the club, because we aint got owners to fill the position.

[Darth Marty]

Ah, i see what Hicks is planning. He's deliberately going to ruin LFC by selling it's best players, by not getting the new stadium and by watching us languish in mid-table obscurity, thereby decreasing it's market value...and then? Sell it for a profit? Do what?

The only way LFC is worth anything to Hicks is if it is successful, and to be successful the club has to compete. That means a new stadium is a must, the players on the pitch must be good enough to at least gain CL entry, hopefully better.

All this Hicks is going to run us into the ground crap is a laugh. He's in it to make money, and he won't do that if the club underperforms.

Now thats not entirely true is it?

All he has to do is ensure we remain in the Premiership, nothing else, if he manages that then with increased tv money and increased revenue from the new stadium/sponsorship etc then he will still have massive equity on his original loans. So thats good news, mid table mediocrity here we come! whoohoo.

[el matador]

although i really dont care what gillette does,he invited this plague on our club by bringing in hicks - knowing his history.hes guilty by association,and i dont care if he never speaks again.

until we find out the truth about parry and moores actions in the last 12 months - wether they have been defending the club in boardroom stand offs etc, ill reserve my hatred for them.altho moores should be shot for even thinking of selling to hicks - i refuse to believe he didnt know this mans history,no one that successful could be that dumb.i truely have to question his real passion for lfc because of this.

spot on..

If moores and parry didnt realise or research hicks' history then they really dont deserve to be involved with our club. I am a supporter of mr. Moores as ive seen him bankroll the club for many years. He genuinely loves the club - but the same cannot be said for parry.

I think moores was led into choosing hicks & gillett as the preferred bidders for the club, i also think that the 7 year exit strategy document spooked him. But if had the vision and foresight you expect of your club owners he should have seen this coming a mile away.

There were some serious discussions going on in the forums as to whether Hicks and Gillett were the right people for us - unfortunately it seems like we discussed this on the internet more than they did in the board room.

That's why we are in the position we are in - because of a lack of planning from Parry and Moores.

In relation to another poster who said that the club has to be successful to retain its value - that's not necessarily true. I think Liverpool FC along with some other select clubs like real madrid, barcelona and juventus will always have a special value in the market that goes beyond the performance on the pitch because of the history, tradition and legacy of the clubs.

Liverpool FC have a reported 28m registered worldwide supporters - that alone should send alarm bells ringing for any future owner of the club. So if the club only finished in the top four for the next 10 years and didnt win anything I dont think the value of the club would necessarily go down. As long as the income streams were relatively unaffected.

However, if the debt situation wasnt managed properly then that could have a serious affect on and off pitch performance. That's what will be worry Hicks - whether we can generate enough income to pay the interest payments in the short term. I think he would be content to sit there and watch us finish in the top 4 with the minimum level of investment in the team.

Long term is an entirely different matter...

[StevieG08]

instead of trying to pull apart other people efforts to unite our support against these vultures,how about you make some suggestions on how we might save our club? besides 'give the maricans a chance'. not gonna wash with me,or quite a few more than a 'few thousand' proud lfc fans - the true custodians of the club, because we aint got owners to fill the position.

Firstly i haven't tried to 'pull apart' anybodies efforts, i was merely stating some facts. If you could be bothered to look back over my previous posts you will see i too have grave concerns over Hicks' involvement with the club.

However check out how long Hicks has owned the Rangers against the wishes of their fans. Once Moores decided to sell the family silver this was always the most likely thing to happen. It could be argued we were lucky that DIC were interested the first time round, however IF the reports are true that they are only willing to spend a certain amount on the club then perhaps they aren't the saviours people think they will be.

IMO Hicks will only sell if a)he personally is set to lose a considerable amount of his personal fortune (a highly unlikely scenario) or b)he receives an amazing offer for the club that makes it impossible for him not to sell. Campaigning at Anfield will not play any part in his decision making process IMO, thus my comments about it only affecting the team and other supporters.

[CrazyHorse]

Firstly i haven't tried to 'pull apart' anybodies efforts, i was merely stating some facts. If you could be bothered to look back over my previous posts you will see i too have grave concerns over Hicks' involvement with the club.

However check out how long Hicks has owned the Rangers against the wishes of their fans. Once Moores decided to sell the family silver this was always the most likely thing to happen. It could be argued we were lucky that DIC were interested the first time round, however IF the reports are true that they are only willing to spend a certain amount on the club then perhaps they aren't the saviours people think they will be.

IMO Hicks will only sell if a)he personally is set to lose a considerable amount of his personal fortune (a highly unlikely scenario) or b)he receives an amazing offer for the club that makes it impossible for him not to sell. Campaigning at Anfield will not play any part in his decision making process IMO, thus my comments about it only affecting the team and other supporters.

so you have no contribution to how we as supporters can get these guys out then?

the 'set to lose a considerable amount' bit might be a good place for you to start.how bout you come back to us with some positive ideas on how to SAVE OUR CLUB FROM THESE TOOLS.

sorry,but this apathy from or supporters is a disgrace.

[Tom]

Firstly i haven't tried to 'pull apart' anybodies efforts, i was merely stating some facts. If you could be bothered to look back over my previous posts you will see i too have grave concerns over Hicks' involvement with the club.

However check out how long Hicks has owned the Rangers against the wishes of their fans. Once Moores decided to sell the family silver this was always the most likely thing to happen. It could be argued we were lucky that DIC were interested the first time round, however IF the reports are true that they are only willing to spend a certain amount on the club then perhaps they aren't the saviours people think they will be.

IMO Hicks will only sell if a)he personally is set to lose a considerable amount of his personal fortune (a highly unlikely scenario) or b)he receives an amazing offer for the club that makes it impossible for him not to sell. Campaigning at Anfield will not play any part in his decision making process IMO, thus my comments about it only affecting the team and other supporters.

There is a lot of sense in this post but you're wrong about campaigning. It keeps the story in the press which is bad for Hick's media profile. Especially now that trans-atlantic links are being made with his sports victims in the US. There are also many different types of protest, including boycotting businesses linked to Hicks. All this pressure is useful. Lets face it, if campaigning didn't work this thread would have ceased to exist weeks ago.

[Red_Al_77]

Yep, let's sit on our hands and do jack about it.

They haven't bid, but they're somewhere in the background...........too much out there for it not to be true.

And I'm not doing anything?


hahahhahaha

[carrsim]

whether DIC are around or not i am **** scared about the future of our club