Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[homer1]

The situation is the same. DIC want the club, the Yanks want to sell but they are far apart on the valuation and that is the hold up. Nobody realised that Hicks and Gillett would play such hard ball with DIC and with eachother. Matter of days could be weeks or months as DIC simply won't pay over the odds but also won't go away. It is obvious they are playing a media game too.

What media game are they playing mate, they haven't come out and said anything yet & the only mentions in the media have been little comments here & there that they are still in the background?

[RedJedi]

Dont know if this has been posted else where but wont do no harm to put it here.

Anyone goin the FA cup game.

Read please

Press Release

LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS UNION
“Sons of Shankly”

You may or may not have heard of us. But here’s a little bit about who we are.

To do exactly as it says on the tin. A Union for all Liverpool Supporters.

A voice that represents us all. A platform for us all to stand together and fight for what we believe in.

It is early days, and more details of how the organisation will grow will appear over the next few weeks and months. But the catalyst for our formation…..

We want Tom Hicks and George Gillett out of our club - why?

THEY LIED & HAVE JEOPARDISED OUR CLUB FOR THEIR PERSONAL GAIN

They promised that all loans would be would be secured against their own personal assets.

THEY LIED

They have taken out a loan of £350m. £105m has been secured against the club and £245m against Kop Holdings - which owns 100% of Liverpool Football Club and has only one source of revenue: The Club.

So, regardless of the smoke and mirrors, Liverpool Football Club has to pay all of the interest on all of the £350m.

The interest payments alone for this debt will be around £30m each year. All of which will be payable by Liverpool FC - more than enough to wipe out the club’s operating profit.

Gillett and Hicks have only taken out this new loan over an 18 month contract. This is very unusual for a deal of this size; three years is the usual minimum term. Wall Street analysts believe that this is because they had difficulty in getting the banks to lend them the money. Which raises questions about:

THE STADIUM

£60m of that loan has been earmarked for starting construction of the new ground.

There is no funding yet in place to complete the stadium, nor has planning permission been granted for a 71,000 capacity. Existing consent is for 60,000, with any increase depending upon improvements to transport and car parking. With no underground car park, the new plans have less car parking than the original 60,000 design!

If they can’t borrow again in 18 months then they cannot complete the stadium. How can they pledge now that the stadium will be built? In the same way they pledged it would be well on its way to completion twelve months ago - by misleading us.

So do they actually intend to complete the building of the new stadium?

Should Hicks & Gillett get the loan to actually build the new ground, the additional interest payments will be £25m per year.

This will leave Liverpool Football Club to shoulder annual payments of £55m in interest alone. Which begs the question:

WHERE WILL THE FUNDS COME FROM FOR TRANSFERS?

When they took over, Hicks & Gillett promised to back the manager in the transfer market.

From the two transfer windows Hicks and Gillett have owned the club for, Benitez has spent £48.5m on players, and recouped £33.5m in player sales. A net spend of £15m. This is the up-to-date figure that includes the purchase of Skrtel and the sale of Sissoko.

The club brought in around £30m from the run to the Champions League Final last season alone. On top of this there is the increased TV money the club has received.

Where is the money Gillett and Hicks have backed the manager with? They’ve lied to us, they’ve manipulated the press, and some people have believed the spin. We won’t.

In reality, after all the talk about money and Snoogy Doogy, the manager has spent £15m in the last two transfer windows. How is that backing him in the transfer market?

It is about time the real picture was painted for all Liverpool fans out there.

They promised to respect the club’s heritage, history and traditions.

THEY HAVE LIED AND LIED.

They asked to be judged on what their actions. Well they have failed to make a start or produce the funding on the stadium, the major reason why David Moores looked for investment, they have failed to back the manager in the transfer market. They have not put one single cent of their own money into this club and they have undermined the traditions of the football club and the office of manager.

They have, however, managed to create huge debt for LFC to pay off without any end product.

How, exactly, is the football club in a better position now than it was twelve months ago under David Moores?

After the Sunderland game, we staged a 15 minutes stay behind protest at the end of the game. We intend to do the same again.

During the protest, Steve McManaman commented on Setanta that the Americans had backed the manager in the transfer market, secured their new loan bringing money into the club, and we should all forget about it and move on. We don’t blame McManaman, a fair number of good Reds have been won over by their spin, so why shouldn’t a blue?

So it’s time to spread the message and get the real goings on from within Anfield to a wider audience.

It’s about time the truth was exposed.

Hicks and Gillett have to be forced out of Anfield before they wreak more havoc.

Keep a look out for sonsofshankly.com which will be going live in the next few days. We’ll be handing out flyers at the match with details of any future events.

We’ll announce any future meetings on our website, everyone invited, all opinions welcomed.

Please send this announcement on to everyone you know. And keep an eye on our website for further updates and how to get involved.

The next meeting is scheduled for The Olympia at 12pm on Saturday 16th February - before the Barnsley game.

The Olympia
99 West Derby Road
Liverpool
L6 2AF
Map

Everybody welcome - See you all there.

“Liverpool Football Club, Is In The Wrong Hands”

“The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It’s the way I see football, the way I see life”

LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS UNION
“Sons of Shankly”

[Skillz]

What media game are they playing mate, they haven't come out and said anything yet & the only mentions in the media have been little comments here & there that they are still in the background?

They have been leaking information that is clear. They have shown no formal hand because if it goes tit's up they save face easily by denying involvment, which to be fair will not cut much chop here but in the general public they would receive little negative backlash.

In other words they have done things the "Liverpool Way" and kept quiet and done things in the background while making sure their message is out there. Over this whole ordeal DIC have proven themselves more capable of doing things the right way. I expect they have had a few belly laughs watching Hicks **** about like a kid in a candy store.

Anyone who can't see the publicity machines working for both sides isn't taking much notice IMO. Hence why Hicks hired a PR company to take over once he realized he was being made to look a fool, by noone else but himself.

[MattB]

Anyone who can't see the publicity machines working for both sides isn't taking much notice IMO. Hence why Hicks hired a PR company to take over once he realized he was being made to look a fool, by noone else but himself.

Especially when you consider that Hicks took on an agency specialising in financial PR. There are plenty of agencies specialising in sports PR or more general stakeholder relations.

Makes it pretty clear where his priorities lie

[Skillz]

Especially when you consider that Hicks took on an agency specialising in financial PR. There are plenty of agencies specialising in sports PR or more general stakeholder relations.

Makes it pretty clear where his priorities lie

Damn right. He want's control knowing Rafa will leave, allowing him to place a yes man. Say goodbye to SG, Torres et al and we will sit comfortably in 10th place. Much reduced wage bill allowing Hicks to take cream as the fans continue to turn up.

That is the Hicks model, brand devotion. Winning, what is that?

Makes me just thinking about it

[MattB]

Damn right. He want's control knowing Rafa will leave, allowing him to place a yes man. Say goodbye to SG, Torres et al and we will sit comfortably in 10th place. Much reduced wage bill allowing Hicks to take cream as the fans continue to turn up.

That is the Hicks model, brand devotion. Winning, what is that?

Makes me just thinking about it

Problem is it won't actually work. He is trying to scale up a model that works for really quite local 'franchises' in the US. OK your hard core of fans will prob stick by the club 'through the wind and the rain', but will the 'millions of untapped' fans in Asia? No, probably not.

Where will that leave his 'brand devotion' model? ****ed, I would say

[sinbad]

Problem is it won't actually work. He is trying to scale up a model that works for really quite local 'franchises' in the US. OK your hard core of fans will prob stick by the club 'through the wind and the rain', but will the 'millions of untapped' fans in Asia? No, probably not.

Where will that leave his 'brand devotion' model? ****ed, I would say

It's already started, and will get worse for the fat kunt.All the reds that i personally know ( friends and work), have stopped spending any cash on the club, canceled e-st, setanta etc. untill he ****s off.

[Skillz]

Problem is it won't actually work. He is trying to scale up a model that works for really quite local 'franchises' in the US. OK your hard core of fans will prob stick by the club 'through the wind and the rain', but will the 'millions of untapped' fans in Asia? No, probably not.

Where will that leave his 'brand devotion' model? ****ed, I would say

That's right. He will sell.

[Alpha]

They have been leaking information that is clear. They have shown no formal hand because if it goes tit's up they save face easily by denying involvment, which to be fair will not cut much chop here but in the general public they would receive little negative backlash.

In other words they have done things the "Liverpool Way" and kept quiet and done things in the background while making sure their message is out there. Over this whole ordeal DIC have proven themselves more capable of doing things the right way. I expect they have had a few belly laughs watching Hicks **** about like a kid in a candy store.

Anyone who can't see the publicity machines working for both sides isn't taking much notice IMO. Hence why Hicks hired a PR company to take over once he realized he was being made to look a fool, by noone else but himself.

Somebody somewhere has given Tony Barrett the green light to use Sheikh Mohammed's name.

I very much doubt he would refer to Sheikh Mo's involvement unless he knew it to be absolute fact and even then, it is unlikely he would use that information without being briefed.

It is even more unlikely that DIC would allow Sheikh Mo's name to be associated with a deal that was anything less than certain to go through.

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Somebody somewhere has given Tony Barrett the green light to use Sheikh Mohammed's name.

I very much doubt he would refer to Sheikh Mo's involvement unless he knew it to be absolute fact and even then, it is unlikely he would use that information without being briefed.

It is even more unlikely that DIC would allow Sheikh Mo's name to be associated with a deal that was anything less than certain to go through.

Just like last year.

[baz87]

Somebody somewhere has given Tony Barrett the green light to use Sheikh Mohammed's name.

I very much doubt he would refer to Sheikh Mo's involvement unless he knew it to be absolute fact and even then, it is unlikely he would use that information without being briefed.

It is even more unlikely that DIC would allow Sheikh Mo's name to be associated with a deal that was anything less than certain to go through.

Im very warey of this talk of the Sheikh being a Liverpool fan etc. Had he been a fan then im of no doubt they'd already own us as he gets what he wants. At best he may take a passing interest.

Whether he's taking an interest in the takeover, thats very possible. I wrote a uni assignment on him and Dubai (unrelated to Liverpool) around 18months ago and the guy takes a keen interest in all his investments and to a degree if he thinks something is a good investment he'll ignore the advice his people give to him (Palm island - he was told it was a bad idea business wise but he still went ahead with it and was proven right). Whether he feels that way about us im not sure but if he has made his mind up that he wants us then one way or another he will get us.

However if he hasn't got that sort of feeling about us and he's not a fan (like i think) then they'll only buy us at the right price.

[DannyMan2006]

Im very warey of this talk of the Sheikh being a Liverpool fan etc. Had he been a fan then im of no doubt they'd already own us as he gets what he wants. At best he may take a passing interest.

Whether he's taking an interest in the takeover, thats very possible. I wrote a uni assignment on him and Dubai (unrelated to Liverpool) around 18months ago and the guy takes a keen interest in all his investments and to a degree if he thinks something is a good investment he'll ignore the advice his people give to him (Palm island - he was told it was a bad idea business wise but he still went ahead with it and was proven right). Whether he feels that way about us im not sure but if he has made his mind up that he wants us then one way or another he will get us.

However if he hasn't got that sort of feeling about us and he's not a fan (like i think) then they'll only buy us at the right price.

The sheikh isn't a Liverpool fan. Sammer Al-Ansari is. His job is the head of DIC, which is the company that are apparently attempting to buy LFC.

DIC is a compay that is owned by the Sheikh.

[Alpha]

Just like last year.

Exactly. They wouldn't let it happen again, would they?

[MattB]

The sheikh isn't a Liverpool fan.

According to Tony Barrett, he was a 'boyhood fan', which is convenient

[Alpha]

Im very warey of this talk of the Sheikh being a Liverpool fan etc. Had he been a fan then im of no doubt they'd already own us as he gets what he wants. At best he may take a passing interest.

Whether he's taking an interest in the takeover, thats very possible. I wrote a uni assignment on him and Dubai (unrelated to Liverpool) around 18months ago and the guy takes a keen interest in all his investments and to a degree if he thinks something is a good investment he'll ignore the advice his people give to him (Palm island - he was told it was a bad idea business wise but he still went ahead with it and was proven right). Whether he feels that way about us im not sure but if he has made his mind up that he wants us then one way or another he will get us.

However if he hasn't got that sort of feeling about us and he's not a fan (like i think) then they'll only buy us at the right price.

I'm not convinced Sheik Mo is a fan either.

But I think there is significance in Tony Barrett suddenly linking him directly to the deal.