Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[Roboklopp]

FWIW

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/01/18/Prem-Fairclough-on-DIC-on-SSN/

[NICKZS]

Having given some thought to what could have motivated Hicks' going public about Klinnsman, I believe the most likely explanation is that he was trying to force Gillett's hand.

By making the fans turn on them both, Hicks may have attempted to destroy any emotional investment Gillett had made and leave him with only a financial interest in the club.

At this stage, it would be ridiculous for either Hicks or Gillett to admit any division as that would play straight into DIC's hands. But the latest statements coming from the Hicks camp do have the effect of calling George's bluff.

It seems as though DIC may be already attempting to exploit the reported American's split with a divide-and-conquer strategy.

I think that's a pretty perceptive take on things, but there are so many slants you could put on the situation at the moment.

I simply cannot wait until this is concluded one way or the other (hopefully without these 2 dicks).

[WILF]

david moores is a silver spoon and a muppet who knows nothing about running a business. he does however love lfc as much as you or I. any incompetence is his.

rick parry is an EXTREMELY sharp guy and not in anyway incompetent.

well never know the full picture that led to the sale to the yanks - but one things for certain, its wasnt as black and white as those with agendas currently seek to paint it - nor is the current situation so clear cut.

lfc is alive and well.

Could you please explain further why you think LFC is alive and well ??

[paulcooper4]

So that's why Parry changed his allegiance at the 11th hour last year and recommended Moores accept the Yanks' offer?

Perhaps I should stick to 'insider' information about the stadium but my son goes to a posh school in Altrincham and his best mate's Dad (who is a Scouser like me) is very friendly with one of the Moores family (OK, OK, I know it sounds tenuous...) His mate Tom has often sat in the Director's Box with his Dad who even got him a trial at Kirkby through his connection (Tom is a very good striker and is already 6'3" at 15 but sadly he didn't get taken on).

Anyway, according to Tom's Dad, DIC has already made a bid of £320m for the club but it hasn't been accepted. Usual disclaimer follows: I'm just passing the info on so don't shoot the messenger if it's a load of bollocks or has already been mentioned by somebody else (I'm not ****ing reading all 16 pages)!

Thanks Iain lad

Lets hope they dont give up this time.

[enema of the state]

Having given some thought to what could have motivated Hicks' going public about Klinnsman, I believe the most likely explanation is that he was trying to force Gillett's hand.

By making the fans turn on them both, Hicks may have attempted to destroy any emotional investment Gillett had made and leave him with only a financial interest in the club.

At this stage, it would be ridiculous for either Hicks or Gillett to admit any division as that would play straight into DIC's hands. But the latest statements coming from the Hicks camp do have the effect of calling George's bluff.

It seems as though DIC may be already attempting to exploit the reported American's split with a divide-and-conquer strategy.

its a plausible analysis mate but i dont think its true.

i dont think the hicks leak of the klinsman meeting was calculated and i dont believe that hicks could have predicted the backlash theres been. It seems to me that its just a matter of a brash texas businessman behaving in his usual way and misjudging the reaction on the opposite side of the atlantic.

Ive never seen the americans as interested in anything beyond long-term profit so the fact that theyre having to make rapid adjustments to their financial plans in the current world economical climate doesnt shock or worry me. Im sad to see rafa treated as he has been but i ythink thats a matter of insensitivity and brashness rather than a machievellian profiteering agenda.

I think anybody who thinks DIC will be substantially different in their attutude to making money from lfc are fools. theyve probably got more superficial "class" and a better understanding of british football culture but theyre interested for financial reasons, nothing more. (theyve even been exposed as having a 7 year plan to make a quick buck from us)

Ive had the plreasure of working with/for (ie they were funding rresearch with commercial potential) both american (albeit refined massachussets american) and gulf arab bosses in the biotech field. Give me the yanks ANY day.

Some conspiracy bandits wish to bang the drum about machievellian, grasping american profiteers subtley asset stripping our beloved club. i think its best to leave them to it.....most of us have better things to do

[Johnny]

its a plausible analysis mate but i dont think its true.

i dont think the hicks leak of the klinsman meeting was calculated and i dont believe that hicks could have predicted the backlash theres been. It seems to me that its just a matter of a brash texas businessman behaving in his usual way and misjudging the reaction on the opposite side of the atlantic.

Ive never seen the americans as interested in anything beyond long-term profit so the fact that theyre having to make rapid adjustments to their financial plans in the current world economical climate doesnt shock or worry me. Im sad to see rafa treated as he has been but i ythink thats a matter of insensitivity and brashness rather than a machievellian profiteering agenda.

I think anybody who thinks DIC will be substantially different in their attutude to making money from lfc are fools. theyve probably got more superficial "class" and a better understanding of british football culture but theyre interested for financial reasons, nothing more. (theyve even been exposed as having a 7 year plan to make a quick buck from us)

Ive had the plreasure of working with/for (ie they were funding rresearch with commercial potential) both american (albeit refined massachussets american) and gulf arab bosses in the biotech field. Give me the yanks ANY day.

Some conspiracy bandits wish to bang the drum about machievellian, grasping american profiteers subtley asset stripping our beloved club. i think its best to leave them to it.....most of us have better things to do :

What I`ve been trying to say for the last week.

[Pacman]

**** off you yank ****s.

I'd be singing with you Coops I don't care if that makes me a sheep.

They aren't acting in the best interests of the club I love so I want them out.

[Alpha]

its a plausible analysis mate but i dont think its true.

i dont think the hicks leak of the klinsman meeting was calculated and i dont believe that hicks could have predicted the backlash theres been. It seems to me that its just a matter of a brash texas businessman behaving in his usual way and misjudging the reaction on the opposite side of the atlantic.

Ive never seen the americans as interested in anything beyond long-term profit so the fact that theyre having to make rapid adjustments to their financial plans in the current world economical climate doesnt shock or worry me. Im sad to see rafa treated as he has been but i ythink thats a matter of insensitivity and brashness rather than a machievellian profiteering agenda.

I think anybody who thinks DIC will be substantially different in their attutude to making money from lfc are fools. theyve probably got more superficial "class" and a better understanding of british football culture but theyre interested for financial reasons, nothing more. (theyve even been exposed as having a 7 year plan to make a quick buck from us)

Ive had the plreasure of working with/for (ie they were funding rresearch with commercial potential) both american (albeit refined massachussets american) and gulf arab bosses in the biotech field. Give me the yanks ANY day.

Some conspiracy bandits wish to bang the drum about machievellian, grasping american profiteers subtley asset stripping our beloved club. i think its best to leave them to it.....most of us have better things to do

There is no doubt that Hicks is a brash Texan. But he saw how the fans rallied in support of Rafa when the **** hit the fan the first time. He even commended us for it. Maybe you think he would be stupid enough to risk needlessly outraging the fanbase even further, with the re-financing deadline looming on the horizon and with a decision pending on the new stadium. But I don't. At least not unless there was a potential benefit.

[Snigger]

its a plausible analysis mate but i dont think its true.

i dont think the hicks leak of the klinsman meeting was calculated and i dont believe that hicks could have predicted the backlash theres been. It seems to me that its just a matter of a brash texas businessman behaving in his usual way and misjudging the reaction on the opposite side of the atlantic.

So you think that an intelligent millionaire businessman who spent years in sports franchises didn't think that what he said about Klinsmann would undermine Rafa and it just slipped out?

Ive never seen the americans as interested in anything beyond long-term profit so the fact that theyre having to make rapid adjustments to their financial plans in the current world economical climate doesnt shock or worry me. Im sad to see rafa treated as he has been but i ythink thats a matter of insensitivity and brashness rather than a machievellian profiteering agenda.

I think anybody who thinks DIC will be substantially different in their attutude to making money from lfc are fools. theyve probably got more superficial "class" and a better understanding of british football culture but theyre interested for financial reasons, nothing more. (theyve even been exposed as having a 7 year plan to make a quick buck from us)

No one is saying DIC will be the new Messiah, but the devil himself would be better than Hicks, of course they are in it to make money so are most club buyers and the nice thing about that is they have the money to invest in the playing staff to increase the marketing revenues that would hopefully follow success on the pitch and at least they are lead by a fan

Ive had the plreasure of working with/for (ie they were funding rresearch with commercial potential) both american (albeit refined massachussets american) and gulf arab bosses in the biotech field. Give me the yanks ANY day.

How do you compare the two? If there's a next time with different players you might find it's the other way around

Some conspiracy bandits wish to bang the drum about machievellian, grasping american profiteers subtley asset stripping our beloved club. i think its best to leave them to it.....most of us have better things to do

[Manofthebog]

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Re: Dubai to make Liverpool FC bid
« Reply #652 on: Today at 04:48:21 PM »

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Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere in the thread, and I know this may sound dubious, but it's what I've heard from a reliable source.

It is believed that a delegation from DIC are flying in this weekend and that all discussions between Hicks/Gillette and the banks have been put on hold. The Press Agency is also being hammered by journalists all over the world for photos of Gillette and Hicks as a big story is believed to be breaking.

As I said, this is from a reliable source so fingers crossed we may have some good news early next week.

[Fowler_God]

I was feeling made up yesterday because i thought we might see the back of Hicks and his boots.
Today i'm not feeling so positive, i get the feeling this Texan is going to dig his boots in and ****s us over.

BTW does anyone reckon Morgan is gutted he bought Wolves the other month?

[bazza76]

They have to or else they'll go down in Liverpool fc history as the two men who sold us down the river. Knowing how much Moores loves the club I'm 100% certain that's not how he wants to be remembered. I would hazard a guess that he's doing everything in his power right now to try and rectify his HUGE f**k up.

That is partly what I am pinning my hopes on too. Also the fans aswell.
If DIC are as genuine as they claim to be, they may be more determined that we think, giving that there are alot of them that are fans too.
Or am I being naive.

[blacky]

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Re: Dubai to make Liverpool FC bid
« Reply #652 on: Today at 04:48:21 PM »

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Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere in the thread, and I know this may sound dubious, but it's what I've heard from a reliable source.

It is believed that a delegation from DIC are flying in this weekend and that all discussions between Hicks/Gillette and the banks have been put on hold. The Press Agency is also being hammered by journalists all over the world for photos of Gillette and Hicks as a big story is believed to be breaking.

As I said, this is from a reliable source so fingers crossed we may have some good news early next week.

Does anyone know if this guy is reliable?

[The Erectile Banana]

Does anyone know if this guy is reliable?

Well according to his profile he only has ten posts so I doubt he has much of a track record unless it's from other forums.

[Big-Red-Ed]

I would like to make a point about DIC because some people may think that DIC will offer more of the same in terms of viewing our club as a cash cow. This is not earth shattering info to our fans in the middle east but may prove to be a useful insight to the rest of us. Bear with me.

My neighbour across the road is an Engineering Project Manager in Dubai. He effectively works for a part of DIC responsible for their big building projects. He works away most of the year but his wife and child stay here in the uk. He comes back for a few days every couple of months. He doesn't really like football but knows I am a Liverpool man. I spoke to him after the last DIC deal fell through and he was astonished that Liverpool didn't go with them. Until this time I wasn't aware that he had anything to do with DIC even though he lives in dubai.

He told me that he wasn't really privy to any hard info but explained the whole ethos of Dubai in general. He said the whole idea of dubai by the sheihk is a recognition that in the medium to long term the oil is running out and he wants to move his emmirate towards tourism/leisure etc.

He said that DIC is an organisation that wants a portfolio of high profile businesses whose aim is to basically advertise the merits of Dubai to the rest of the world and attract tourists and foreign money to the region. Although the projects are all hoped to be successful businesses- income generation from those businesses is not their primary function. He told me that it was DIC's intention to use LFC as a world wide brand to attract positive spin towards Dubai. This would involve pumping loads of money into the club to make it top dog.

He had no knowledge of the 7 year plan and said this wasn't really their way of doing things.

I spoke to him at xmas before the latest rumours and he didn't mention anything new but as I said before I don't think he would really know anything about that part of the business. I plan to ask him again when he returns in a few weeks.

Ed