Rafa Criticises Diao's Refusal To Move

[red g]

What new opinion have I formed from it? I said normally I give him the benefit of the doubt but seeing that in the gossip column has made me rethink it. The only thing I said about him is he's a waste of space - that much is true no matter how professional he is frankly.

[dom9]

What new opinion have I formed from it? I said normally I give him the benefit of the doubt but seeing that in the gossip column has made me rethink it. The only thing I said about him is he's a waste of space - that much is true no matter how professional he is frankly.

Sorry - you've re-formed your opinion based on a paraphrased paragraph on the BBC website, without reading the quotes from Rafa first. That's all. At no point did he say that Diao rejected the move (he may or may not have rejected it - we do not know).

[Reece]

Look everyone, Diao is **** and should be shot.

Let's just move on now.

[dom9]

Let's just move on now.

Indeed

[Neil Young]

Look everyone, Diao is **** and should be shot.

Let's just move on now.

That's the problem - he won't.

[blacky]

hes a piece of worthless ****. Greed takes importance over pride. He is ashley cole without the talent.

Couldn't agree more. Even Diouf had the dignity to leave. Diao epitomises everything that is wrong with the modern game. Wa#ker

[Neil Young]

I've just had a thought that may be relevant. I went to Lagos last year for work and part of that was hearing some young men about 19 or 20 years old discuss their aspirations and ambitions. All of them wanted to be financially secure obviously. They were far from the poorest in Lagos but they certainly weren't at all wealthy by Western European standards.

However, they didn't just want money for its own sake and they didn't want it just for themselves and their immediate family. My understanding was that in Nigeria having money gives you security in a way that we in Western Europe simply do not understand. Public services do not exist in the way that they do here - if you don't have work you go hungry.

The really important bit is this - they all said they wanted money so they could look after people in their community. It's not just the nuclear or even the extended family, it's everyone in their neighbourhood.

I don't know about Diao's background and I don't know if it's the same in Senegal but if it is then it's a hell of a lot more complicated than him and his family being "set up for life" in a way that we might see it. Him having money can change the lives of many - is it necessarily morally preferable for him to give that up just so an English football club can bring in another player on £50k a week?

I'm not prepared to sit in judgment on the guy. He's got a contract, why should he tear it up?

[Bob]

I've just had a thought that may be relevant. I went to Lagos last year for work and part of that was hearing some young men about 19 or 20 years old discuss their aspirations and ambitions. All of them wanted to be financially secure obviously. They were far from the poorest in Lagos but they certainly weren't at all wealthy by Western European standards.

However, they didn't just want money for its own sake and they didn't want it just for themselves and their immediate family. My understanding was that in Nigeria having money gives you security in a way that we in Western Europe simply do not understand. Public services do not exist in the way that they do here - if you don't have work you go hungry.

The really important bit is this - they all said they wanted money so they could look after people in their community. It's not just the nuclear or even the extended family, it's everyone in their neighbourhood.

I don't know about Diao's background and I don't know if it's the same in Senegal but if it is then it's a hell of a lot more complicated than him and his family being "set up for life" in a way that we might see it. Him having money can change the lives of many - is it necessarily morally preferable for him to give that up just so an English football club can bring in another player on £50k a week?

I'm not prepared to sit in judgment on the guy. He's got a contract, why should he tear it up?

[bazza76]

I've just had a thought that may be relevant. I went to Lagos last year for work and part of that was hearing some young men about 19 or 20 years old discuss their aspirations and ambitions. All of them wanted to be financially secure obviously. They were far from the poorest in Lagos but they certainly weren't at all wealthy by Western European standards.

However, they didn't just want money for its own sake and they didn't want it just for themselves and their immediate family. My understanding was that in Nigeria having money gives you security in a way that we in Western Europe simply do not understand. Public services do not exist in the way that they do here - if you don't have work you go hungry.

The really important bit is this - they all said they wanted money so they could look after people in their community. It's not just the nuclear or even the extended family, it's everyone in their neighbourhood.

I don't know about Diao's background and I don't know if it's the same in Senegal but if it is then it's a hell of a lot more complicated than him and his family being "set up for life" in a way that we might see it. Him having money can change the lives of many - is it necessarily morally preferable for him to give that up just so an English football club can bring in another player on £50k a week?

I'm not prepared to sit in judgment on the guy. He's got a contract, why should he tear it up?

That would be quite acceptable if that was openly the case, but we dont know that. In anyways. I would have thought that since his professional carreer began, that Diao has made alot of money, possibly more in a week than the vast majority make in a year. Surely his family would have been sorted by now, educated and whatever. I dont mean to sound sarcastic, but I doubt he is helping whole villages back in Senegal with his money. So, to me, personally, I think financially, he has already achieved alot, possibly earning more than any other Senegaleese player. But having achieved less apart from his appearance in a world cup and playing for Liverpool. If he had any real ambitions as a footballer, he would have quite Liverpool and strove to make a name for himself elsewhere. Instead he wishes to just train everyday, not making an impact on the football world and robbing LFC of a potential star. Look at Damien Duff, could ahve stayed at Chavski and most likely collected his medals and fat pay check at the end of the season, but decided to move to Newcastle because he wants to actually play regularly and be remembered for playing, not just getting a hefty pay check.

[Bob]

Yes, but Duff is good. Diao, i suspect, knows he's pish.

It's the clubs fault - they made a costly mistake and they will pay for it. End of.

[Los Rojos]

I've just had a thought that may be relevant. I went to Lagos last year for work and part of that was hearing some young men about 19 or 20 years old discuss their aspirations and ambitions. All of them wanted to be financially secure obviously. They were far from the poorest in Lagos but they certainly weren't at all wealthy by Western European standards.

However, they didn't just want money for its own sake and they didn't want it just for themselves and their immediate family. My understanding was that in Nigeria having money gives you security in a way that we in Western Europe simply do not understand. Public services do not exist in the way that they do here - if you don't have work you go hungry.

The really important bit is this - they all said they wanted money so they could look after people in their community. It's not just the nuclear or even the extended family, it's everyone in their neighbourhood.

I don't know about Diao's background and I don't know if it's the same in Senegal but if it is then it's a hell of a lot more complicated than him and his family being "set up for life" in a way that we might see it. Him having money can change the lives of many - is it necessarily morally preferable for him to give that up just so an English football club can bring in another player on £50k a week?

I'm not prepared to sit in judgment on the guy. He's got a contract, why should he tear it up?

Good post Mr. Young. It makes you think doesn't it

By the way, if I was Diao and on £50 K a week for the next 10 months or so guaranteed, I'd be quite happy with my lot.

However, if he went on loan, wouldn't Liverpool be contractually bound to make sure his wages were paid in full i.e. make up the shortfall. Surely, Diao would have been better off on loan, playing and earning his £50K. He'd also be in shop window for next season.

[bazza76]

Yes, but Duff is good. Diao, i suspect, knows he's pish.

It's the clubs fault - they made a costly mistake and they will pay for it. End of.

Well i'd have to agree there too, we went in too quickly for him, Rafa seems to study players for alot longer than Ged did anyway, so thats good.
One thing always stuck in my mind about us signing Diao, I remember Ged saying that Platini reccomended Diao to him, telling GH that Diao was quite a player and was going to be world class etc.
then I read that GH was none too popular in footballing circles in France. Could this have been some kind of sick joke on the part of Platini and others. I know it's probably a long shot, but.

[bazza76]

Good post Mr. Young. It makes you think doesn't it

By the way, if I was Diao and on £50 K a week for the next 10 months or so guaranteed, I'd be quite happy with my lot.

However, if he went on loan, wouldn't Liverpool be contractually bound to make sure his wages were paid in full i.e. make up the shortfall. Surely, Diao would have been better off on loan, playing and earning his £50K. He'd also be in shop window for next season.

True, im actually supprised a compromise wasnt reached between the club and ourselves about wages, maybe with us paying half of his 50k a Recritivo paying the remainder.

[Red_Polo]

Sorry - you've re-formed your opinion based on a paraphrased paragraph on the BBC website, without reading the quotes from Rafa first. That's all. At no point did he say that Diao rejected the move (he may or may not have rejected it - we do not know).

Sorry, I haven't. Made me rethink is not the same as decided to change my mind.

[Eth]

Someone should break into his house and steal all his shoes - then he's late for training - do this over the course of a month and we have grounds for sacking his ass