The draw was a FIX

[MrMichael]

I understand what you're saying...... BUT

a draw

Liverpool v Arsenal isn't the same draw as Arsenal v Liverpool - which is what you're claiming.

So for a 2 team draw there are 2 permutations.

4 team draw there are 12 permutations. (You'd claim there were 3?)

6 team draw there are 240 permutations (You'd claim 15?)

and so on....

As far as I understand it, not only did this poster get the draw right, he called how they came out of the hat right too....

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Look at what the guy posted dude




He doesn't even name the last game, its just assumed. He does not get them right as out of the hat. That would be different odds, and unlikely even if it was a fix given how such info would be disseminated.

Seriously, The odds in this situation are basically 100/1.

[Rich]

GROUP HUG

[Rich]

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first. What we're talking about is the odds of somebody saying it'll be lfc v xxx team, and so on, to get all 4 combinations right.

You can take any other club as the starting point, its irrelevant, there are then 7 other teams you can put with them. Then you take another, there's 5, and so on.

So the independant odds of someone correctly calling all 4 ties (if the home and away bit is irrelevant) are 7 x 5 x 3 x 1.

I understand what you're saying...... BUT

a draw

Liverpool v Arsenal isn't the same draw as Arsenal v Liverpool - which is what you're claiming.

So for a 2 team draw there are 2 permutations.

4 team draw there are 12 permutations. (You'd claim there were 3?)

6 team draw there are 240 permutations (You'd claim 15?)

and so on....

As far as I understand it, not only did this poster get the draw right, he called how they came out of the hat right too....

[Jack D Rips]

Not according to the screenshot earlier in the thread.

Not only did he name the pairings. He named them in the same order they came out.

I got an Elvis Presley on this one

[BFG]

Don't think he did.

He got the teams right, that's all.

[Kenneth]

Surely it does matter as thats what decides who's at home?

He got all the home and away parts right as well!

Don't think he did.

[Kenneth]

So it's pretty much 1%, which was said on the Draw thread ages ago

[Hansi]

The guy didn't just predict the outcome, he even predicted the order of the matches, exactly how they came out.

Not according to the screenshot earlier in the thread.

[Barnyard]

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first.

Surely it does matter as thats what decides who's at home?

He got all the home and away parts right as well!

[calvoboy]

'Could' be a fix but I just think it's a huge coincidence, they do happen from time to time.

You're right, of course - I would tend to believe that a little bit more though if there were a few other threads claiming to know the draw in advance that got it wrong.

It just smells a bit fishy - one thread, one guess, absolutely spot on.

[MrMichael]

LFC weren't picked out of the hat first, so you can't say

lfc v ??, 7x5x3x1 - unless it really is Friday afternoon and I've taken a turn for the worse...

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first. What we're talking about is the odds of somebody saying it'll be lfc v xxx team, and so on, to get all 4 combinations right.

You can take any other club as the starting point, its irrelevant, there are then 7 other teams you can put with them. Then you take another, there's 5, and so on.

So the independant odds of someone correctly calling all 4 ties (if the home and away bit is irrelevant) are 7 x 5 x 3 x 1.

[Imy]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

@ your sig, nice try though!!

[Reece]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

Good point. He apparently likes playing with small balls.

[Dan]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

[el matador]

just spoke to mike at the echo and he didnt know anything about this.

He does now.