In defence of Rafa.....gulp...

[Craig_H]

FAO Mr no axe to grind DJS - please review - it's constant and it's dull. We all know you don't think Rafa will win us the league and we all know you don't particularly like him so you can stop telling us know..............please:

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=47788

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=47955

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=45530

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=42088

Two of those are completely independent of the point you're trying to make.

I dont think Rafa will win the PL.

I do like him.

I think you'd make a comically superb lawyer.

[Snigger]

Two of those are completely independent of the point you're trying to make.

I dont think Rafa will win the PL.

I do like him.

I think you'd make a comically superb lawyer.

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

[Pacman]

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

[Skillz]

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

Think DJS is being targeted in this thread a little unnecessarily. Trust me I am the first to go after him when he crosses the line but he expressing an opinion and yes he may have been a little snide but he has posted generally in good faith.

Footnote: DJ you are borderline, be very careful and do not expect my support to last, in fact if I were you I would expect me to turn against you at any moment.

[-V-]

Despite our defeat last night im still proud. Chelsea had all the luck. Own goal, penalty, and no penalty for us when Hyypia was fouled. Thats football just have to accept it. Can't get to the final every year

We are lucky to have Rafa. We are one of europe's CURRENT elite clubs because Rafa has took us to 3 semi finals and 2 finals in the last 4 seasons. Thats mighty impressive and i dont believe any other manager could have managed that.

Ofcourse we are dissapointed to only finish 4th in the league BUT you have to understand that football has changed and Englands top 4 are the richest and most powerful clubs in the world. The fact that we continue to compete with the rest of them is reassuring. Competing with the other top 3 is not easy by any means and we are doing just fine.

Iv had a lot of good memories this season. We were unlucky against Chelsea but smashing Marseille, Porto, Inter Milan and Arsenal is really impressive and was alot of fun. We cant get to the final every year. Happens, get over it and lets look forward to next season where hopefully we will make more progress

[Neil Young]

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

??????

Where have i said it's the manager's fault??? Christ...

Here:

Still nothing...

[Pacman]

Despite our defeat last night im still proud. Chelsea had all the luck. Own goal, penalty, and no penalty for us when Hyypia was fouled. Thats football just have to accept it. Can't get to the final every year

We are lucky to have Rafa. We are one of europe's CURRENT elite clubs because Rafa has took us to 3 semi finals and 2 finals in the last 4 seasons. Thats mighty impressive and i dont believe any other manager could have managed that.

Ofcourse we are dissapointed to only finish 4th in the league BUT you have to understand that football has changed and Englands top 4 are the richest and most powerful clubs in the world. The fact that we continue to compete with the rest of them is reassuring. Competing with the other top 3 is not easy by any means and we are doing just fine.

Iv had a lot of good memories this season. Smashing Marseille, Porto, Inter Milan and Arsenal is really impressive and was alot of fun. We cant get to the final every year. Happens, get over it and lets look forward to next season where hopefully we will make more progress

Well said mate

[The Birdman]

He'd want Rafa sacked if we did win the league under him.
Some people are never happy

[Roboklopp]

Despite our defeat last night im still proud. Chelsea had all the luck. Own goal, penalty, and no penalty for us when Hyypia was fouled. Thats football just have to accept it. Can't get to the final every year

We are lucky to have Rafa. We are one of europe's CURRENT elite clubs because Rafa has took us to 3 semi finals and 2 finals in the last 4 seasons. Thats mighty impressive and i dont believe any other manager could have managed that.

Ofcourse we are dissapointed to only finish 4th in the league BUT you have to understand that football has changed and Englands top 4 are the richest and most powerful clubs in the world. The fact that we continue to compete with the rest of them is reassuring. Competing with the other top 3 is not easy by any means and we are doing just fine.

Iv had a lot of good memories this season. We were unlucky against Chelsea but smashing Marseille, Porto, Inter Milan and Arsenal is really impressive and was alot of fun. We cant get to the final every year. Happens, get over it and lets look forward to next season where hopefully we will make more progress

Agree with everything in this post- except you forgot to mention their offside goal yesterday.

[-V-]

It was offside and Drogba was standing directly infront of Reina so not worth mentioning. Very minor incident

[Skillz]

Yadda yadda

True but he is sort of trying to be civil, by his standards, and he was attacked unnecessarily IMO at the start of the thread. He has an opinion, one that I disagree with greatly but he hasn't been too snide.....yet.

As long as he is civil about it I have no problem. When he does get on one though, he gets both barrels from me and its only a matter of time

[mersey86]

He HAS spent as much as Man Utd. Not saying i want him out or having a go, but just correcting that point.

BUT Man Us squad was so much better in the first place.

Yes. And ours should be good enough to make a title challenge by now.

Yes, but Man U have had a strong base to add to. We had the crock from Souness then Evans then Houllier. Its a flawed argument IMO

We should be challenging for the title.

"ITS GROUNDHOG DAY!!!!"

[Kenneth]

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

Zonal Marking; can't be questioned becasue it's a dig at the manager and just a repetition, as other threads have also had a 'dig' at the manager

People seem to think it's open season on DJS, because it's DJS. Well if you don't like hearing other people's opinions, such as that Rafa won't won the PL, then **** off and talk to yourself in the ****ing mirror you sancimonious gits.

[Pacman]

Zonal Marking; can't be questioned becasue it's a dig at the manager and just a repetition, as other threads have also had a 'dig' at the manager

People seem to think it's open season on DJS, because it's DJS. Well if you don't like hearing other people's opinions, such as that Rafa won't won the PL, then **** off and talk to yourself in the ****ing mirror you sancimonious gits.

A bit hypocritical old boy.

[Craig_H]

Maybe you are missing the point I'm trying to make then because all those threads you started are having a dig at the manager in some shape or form, albeit sometimes with your absurd caveat that although you don't like his tactics and don't think he'll ever win the league you have nothing against him.

Either say what you really think ONCE and be done with it or don't bother saying anything at all because the thinly veiled attacks on Rafa are boring and unnecessary

This is the thing some people arent able to grasp...

Thinking he's wrong about something, is not an 'attack' thinly veiled or otherwise.

As for 'liking him', we're not in the playground anymore fella.

If i'm that much of a nusance to you, put me on ignore.