Rafa's Last Season?

[Clapper]

some more post rafa revisionist nonsense. we've topped the league under houllier and qualified for the knock out stages of europe as well.

also where exactly have i criticised rafa here? i've made clear what i think should happen if he doesn't deliver the title.

How did Liverpool under Houliier in the CL compared to Rafa?
Any of the improvement you are looking for?
And how often did we go to the knock out stages under Houllier?
And since Rafa took over, we have been among the favourites nearly every year. Except for the season 04/05 maybe. That is many years ago, we have been used to that.

[cannotmakeit]

he'll sure have a lot more breathing room than he has now

woo wee the importance of you "breathing room"

[rage]

You invent things that suit you. An FA Cup was not considered a huge success and you still avoid answering my question. There was no improvement in the first 5 years under Ferguson. Should he have been sacked?
Before the start of 89/90, Ferguson invested heavily in players, and there was even a banner saying : Three years of excuses and it's still crap.
Still he stayed and he have done pretty good since.

yet it is universally acknowledged as saving his career

[rage]

How did Liverpool under Houliier in the CL compared to Rafa?
Any of the improvement you are looking for?
And how often did we go to the knock out stages under Houllier?
And since Rafa took over, we have been among the favourites nearly every year. Except for the season 04/05 maybe. That is many years ago, we have been used to that.

these are not the questions you asked, you posted some revisionist nonsense about how we've not been top of the league before nor qualified for the knockout stages of the champions league.

and in the same way people talk about the premiership becoming tougher i feel the european competitions are becoming weaker.

its all swings and roundabouts really, this tread is about is it rafa's last season. no matter what you or posters like you come up with as far as i'm concerned if he fails to win the league this season he should be sacked.

whether you agree with me or not i'm sure you can see my point of view. i expect a liverpool manager to deliver the league if given 5 seasons to do so.

[rage]

woo wee the importance of you "breathing room"

do you dispute that or just like to laugh?

[MrMichael]

Round and round the mulberry bush......

How about we declare an armistice on here guys?

Rage - in the summer you said you thought that if we weren't "in serious contention at Christmas", Rafa should go. Well we are. Now you're saying if he doesn't deliver the title this year he should go. Personally I think it would be fairer to see how it all pans out - if we won 19 out of our last 20 games, but one of our rivals win all 20, then sacking him would be insane, but anyway, how about we now say "phase one has been achieved and we'll now wait till the end of phase 2 (ie the season) before making such judgements". Nobody's sacking anyone between now and May anyway, nor should we, I think you'd agree with that, so....

It'd make everyone's time on this forum the next few months, yours included, a lot more pleasant.

[rage]

Round and round the mulberry bush......

How about we declare an armistice on here guys?

Rage - in the summer you said you thought that if we weren't "in serious contention at Christmas", Rafa should go. Well we are. Now you're saying if he doesn't deliver the title this year he should go. Personally I think it would be fairer to see how it all pans out - if we won 19 out of our last 20 games, but one of our rivals win all 20, then sacking him would be insane, but anyway, how about we now say "phase one has been achieved and we'll now wait till the end of phase 2 (ie the season) before making such judgements". Nobody's sacking anyone between now and May anyway, nor should we, I think you'd agree with that, so....

It'd make everyone's time on this forum the next few months, yours included, a lot more pleasant.

couldn't have put it better myself

[Marky]

what a load of bollocks.

[rage]

what a load of bollocks.

u go back to trying to get young ladies to come back to the marky love nest

[MrMichael]

couldn't have put it better myself

Well why didn't you then?

OK, so we're cool then (till 5pm at least ), we all agree that nobody wants Rafa sacked right now, the season so far hasn't been perfect at all but if we were offered in July a 1 point lead at Xmas, and CL qualification, we'd all have taken it and said anything further judgements should wait till the end of the season?



So everyone agrees the subject can now be put on hiatus till May?

[MrMichael]

what a load of bollocks.

Can't you see I'm trying to end this now for the sake of everyone's sanity, please play ball dude

[The_weatherman]

Well why didn't you then?

OK, so we're cool then (till 5pm at least ), we all agree that nobody wants Rafa sacked right now, the season so far hasn't been perfect at all but if we were offered in July a 1 point lead at Xmas, and CL qualification, we'd all have taken it and said anything further judgements should wait till the end of the season?



So everyone agrees the subject can now be put on hiatus till May?

I wanna argue some more

[cannotmakeit]

do you dispute that or just like to laugh?

No i laugh at that statement, "breathing room" So if we win the league then Rafa has breathing room for how long? The manager who win us the league after so long.

[Clapper]

these are not the questions you asked, you posted some revisionist nonsense about how we've not been top of the league before nor qualified for the knockout stages of the champions league.

and in the same way people talk about the premiership becoming tougher i feel the european competitions are becoming weaker.

its all swings and roundabouts really, this tread is about is it rafa's last season. no matter what you or posters like you come up with as far as i'm concerned if he fails to win the league this season he should be sacked.

whether you agree with me or not i'm sure you can see my point of view. i expect a liverpool manager to deliver the league if given 5 seasons to do so.

No, this is not the questions I asked, but you won't answer my original questions, so I have to post something new.
Or more likely, you can't answer my original questions.

[Clapper]

yet it is universally acknowledged as saving his career

Yes, but that doesn't mean, that it was considered a success just to win the cup.