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    #76
    We have not invested in quality

    We probably could have got Bezema for £20M who would have been a proven international striker for years. It's no surprise the SCUM are after him now -they invest in quality.

    Santa Cruz is a quality striker we should buy so that Torres is not put under undue pressure in terms of volume of games -mini rotation

    Now I appreciate the reality -we have no £ -if Keane goes back what would we get
    pennies after taking a loss and writing off the £10M still to be paid

    Dubai interest ended to put maximum pressure on Yanks which will leave the Banks to apply pressure and effectively drive down the value.

    Well actually the owners are fortunate we are top of the league that could be their saving grace BUT they need to get some money together to ensure quality signings are made not a stop gap Heskey type signing.

    Rafa is correct there will ineviteably be an adjustment to value of players and transfer fees post crunch BUT sadly when sides are chasing a title and/or staving off relegation market forces inevitably mean Club Chairman will pay a healthy "premium" to effectively protect preserve or increase the value of their investment. In these troubled time we really are talking about "preservation" of their asset the only "added value" is the increased value of the "Brand" so greater investment /sponsorship etc can be attracted.

    Even that strategy has no guarantee of success.

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      #77
      Shane Smeltz - Wellington Phoenix

      Leading the A-League Golden Boot this season. You would get him for a transfer fee equivalent to a weeks salary for Keane.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Crazy-Horse View Post
        Shane Smeltz - Wellington Phoenix

        Leading the A-League Golden Boot this season. You would get him for a transfer fee equivalent to a weeks salary for Keane.
        He wasn't too bad at AFC Wimbledon but was **** at Halifax

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          #79
          Originally posted by Attilladahun View Post
          We have not invested in quality

          We probably could have got Bezema for £20M who would have been a proven international striker for years. It's no surprise the SCUM are after him now -they invest in quality.
          Karim Benzema
          91 appearances for Lyon 36 goals
          18 appearances for France 5 goals

          A goal every 2. 65 matches

          Santa Cruz is a quality striker we should buy so that Torres is not put under undue pressure in terms of volume of games -mini rotation

          Roque Luis Santa Cruz Cantero

          224 Appearances for club (46 matches in England) 67 goals
          61 appearances for Paraguay 20 Goals

          A goal every 3.27 matches

          Robbie Keane
          368 appearances for club (all but 6 in England) 131 goals
          85 appearance for RoI 35 goals

          A goal every 2. 72 matches

          Which player represents less risk for 20m?????

          (Figures taken from Wikipedia, so may be slightly out of date)

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            #80
            Originally posted by Attilladahun View Post
            It's no surprise the SCUM are after him now -they invest in quality.
            Hmmm..

            Hargreaves, Veron, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba, Taibi.

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              #81
              Originally posted by alexjamestodd View Post
              Ok , so Rafa bought Keane because in the year 2007 he was the most prolific striker in the league.
              Patience is a virtue, Little Grasshopper!

              Peter Crouch - 19 matches without a goal for us. Then a total of 124 appearances for 36 goals.

              Robbie Keane - 22 matches 4 goals

              Robbie is already ahead of the stats, but some people still want to write him off as a failure.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Crazy-Horse View Post
                Patience is a virtue, Little Grasshopper!

                Peter Crouch - 19 matches without a goal for us. Then a total of 124 appearances for 36 goals.

                Robbie Keane - 22 matches 4 goals

                Robbie is already ahead of the stats, but some people still want to write him off as a failure.
                comparing crouch and keane doesn't work. crouch didn't cost 20 million. we sold crouch at a profit. crouch wasn't 'proven'.

                i hope keane gets a run out against hull alongside babel. he ain't a lone frontman and keane and kuyt are too similar.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by rage View Post
                  comparing crouch and keane doesn't work. crouch didn't cost 20 million.
                  No, I agree in playing style they are both quite different.

                  However, in the attitude of some people, that are prepared to write off a player after roughly a third of a season after they transfer in, the scenario is quite similar. Some of these people who were screaming for Crouch to be dropped, and Rafa to get his head read for persisting with playing him in the early days, are now saying Rafa made a mistake in getting rid...

                  I think it is the advent of computer/console games and fantasy football which has opened up the instant gratification requirement of the modern fan. Score every week or you're gone!!!!

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    Because Babel isn't all that good (yet)?

                    We needed an extra goal threat and with Keane not performing we probably still do.
                    Surely if he was given the time to prove himself as a striker more than a wide player - he could come good.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                      Surely if he was given the time to prove himself as a striker more than a wide player - he could come good.
                      If he would make the effort and have the game intelligence. Right now the only time he is effective is as an impact player coming off the bench.
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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Crazy-Horse View Post
                        No, I agree in playing style they are both quite different.

                        However, in the attitude of some people, that are prepared to write off a player after roughly a third of a season after they transfer in, the scenario is quite similar. Some of these people who were screaming for Crouch to be dropped, and Rafa to get his head read for persisting with playing him in the early days, are now saying Rafa made a mistake in getting rid...

                        I think it is the advent of computer/console games and fantasy football which has opened up the instant gratification requirement of the modern fan. Score every week or you're gone!!!!
                        well i for one didn't want to sign crouch and was disappointed that once he proved his value rafa sidelined him and he ended up leaving.

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