Post Match Recriminations - Hull City

[sinbad]

Don't count on them - United just have too much firepower.

Could you ever imagine Sir Alcy keeping a player like Kuyt on the pitch for 90 mins.

[Nicey]

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Seriously .. when are we going to bring people inline for crap like this ... its not on .. its not big nor is it clever

[Joe King]

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I don't think he'd buy him. He has a far more skillful version in Park.

[Vermilion]

Don't count on them - United just have too much firepower.

Yet without a bit of luck they could have only taken a point off Hull, it wouldn't surprise me if we're all sitting here with smiles when the Scum and Chav's have lost this weekend, and we have gained another point lead on them.(ok it would surprise me, but nothing surprises me in football.)

[Joe King]

Yet without a bit of luck they could have only taken a point off Hull, it wouldn't surprise me if we're all sitting here with smiles when the Scum and Chav's have lost this weekend, and we have gained another point lead on them.(ok it would surprise me, but nothing surprises me in football.)

Highly unlikely. Those teams have matchwinners. We have Kuyt up front. Somehow, not the same.

[Roboklopp]

For people saying "it was just one of those games- on another day we'd have scored a hatful"- well we wouldnt I am afraid. We have a real problem up top without Torres & Rafa just doesnt seem to be able to cope with his absence.

I've not called for Keane to be dropped- more played, so I dont come under that umbrella. I thought he did well on wed- really well for 20 mins & he couldve brought something to that game today- as could Babel had he been on longer.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

sack rafa.

why play 451 at home against hull?
why play kuyt upfron on his own when 2 1/2 seasons have shown he's crap in that role?
why play doseena?
why leave babel on the bench until so late and bring on el zahr and lucas (ffs lucas when we're chasing a last minute goal)?

rafa's in super tinker, i know best self destruct mode. if we got rid of him now we'd have a fighting chance, instead we give him a new contract when he's shortcomings from when he first came here are there for all to see.

i feel sick we've dropped points at home to stoke, fulham, west ham and now hull!

Don't be such a ****.. this man dragged us up by our laces, look at how we have improved! We are still top so stop crying and get behind the team, negative BS like that is never going to help

[Vermilion]

Highly unlikely. Those teams have matchwinners. We have Kuyt up front. Somehow, not the same.

I know, they can afford a deep squad and still spend 20-30 mill plus on 5 or more Top Draw players, we can't, old news i know, but should be taken into account, i'm surprised with the amount of cash available to them that they drop any points at all, we shouldn't drop as many as we do.

[sinbad]

For people saying "it was just one of those games- on another day we'd have scored a hatful"- well we wouldnt I am afraid. We have a real problem up top without Torres & Rafa just doesnt seem to be able to cope with his absence.

We've drawn our last 3 home games against ****e. After it happens 3 times in a row there's something more to it than being unlucky.

[Vermilion]

No Carra og we win. Football eh...... Aaaaaggghhhhhhh.... love it.

[Exiled_red]

For people saying "it was just one of those games- on another day we'd have scored a hatful"- well we wouldnt I am afraid. We have a real problem up top without Torres & Rafa just doesnt seem to be able to cope with his absence.

I've not called for Keane to be dropped- more played, so I dont come under that umbrella. I thought he did well on wed- really well for 20 mins & he couldve brought something to that game today- as could Babel had he been on longer.

Without Torres we have real problems up front, because Torres aside we don't have another striker that can play in that system, Kuyt and Keane have both proved at various points in the season that neither can play that role. -I'd like to point out that I'm not slagging either player off, I think both have come in for some unfair critisism at times, I'm just saying that that role doesn't suit either of them, and it's a problem we need to address. We either change our system when Torres is out or find a player who can play that role (and would be happy sitting on the bench when Torres is fit)

[barnes10]

I know, they can afford a deep squad and still spend 20-30 mill plus on 5 or more Top Draw players, we can't, old news i know, but should be taken into account, i'm surprised with the amount of cash available to them that they drop any points at all, we shouldn't drop as many as we do.

i think we're at the point where the quality in the squad is close enough for us to compete.

if we wanted to.

it seems we don't have the mentality or ability/technique to take these points.

[Nicey]

Exactly mate exactly .. and probably .hald of these "I'm New" people would not be around

[Vermilion]

i think we're at the point where the quality in the squad is close enough for us to compete.

if we wanted to.

it seems we don't have the mentality or ability/technique to take these points.

For what it's worth i believe that playing for Liverpool is the most pressurised situation to play in the Prem, the press, the fans, but most of all the WAIT is weighing heavy on the club, and it doesn't seem to be easing one bit.

Every week every day every game the players are reminded of it, it is becoming the single biggest obstacle for us overcome, pressure, expectation, the fact no-one has delivered the Prem, the fact the Scum are close, it all adds up.

[sinbad]

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We're still top of the league...

What a ****en load of ****e that is. We won't be top for long and I sincerely doubt we'll be in the number 1 spot at anytime again this season.

What the **** was that by the manager? Spend 31m on two attaking players and give them a combined 10mn to try to infleunce the game when you need a goal.

Benitez has to assumer full responsability for what happned out there today. You need a goal so why don't you put on your 20m striker? Or give another attacking player, one that performed very well in midweek, more than 10mn on the pitch?

Either the man made a mistake buying them, and in that case he's guilty of squandering millions of pounds we could have used elswhere, or he's made a mistake not playing them. How the **** did Dirk Kuyt stay on the field today? Apart from one knockdown header in the first half, he was a total liabilty in attack. But whatver happens with him, howver bad he's playing, unless Benitez wants to rest him, he stays on the field. And then people wonder why Kuyt is singled out for abuse. Well it's because of the sheer favoritism towards him shown by the manager.

And don't get me started on the formation used. I think it's the best one we can use when Torres is fit but when he's not it's a total shambles. It doesnt suit Kuyt nor Keane. Every time Rafa plays Kuyt up front on his own, we look completely one paced and one dimensional in attack. Remember the MIlan final? How about the Boro and City games at the tail end of the 06/07 season? Yet Rafa still plays him alone up front, why I have no ****en clue.

And if all this isnt enough the man ****en waits until the last 15mn to put the subs on and still doesnt bother changing the formation! Or throw in another striker...What the **** happened to the manager who made positive subs early on in the season? Who replaced full backs with wingers against the Boro and Wigan? Who played with 1 centre back when Skrtel was carried off at City? Why did he show balls then and not anymore? Why did he seem hellbent on winning games then but seems to accept drawing them now?

I banged on all summer about our need for creativity in the final third. About how we still lacked quality attaking midfielders who could break 11 men defences down. While people were gushing over our futile chase for Gareth ****en Barry I kept banging on about how we look out of ideas against teams at home most of the time. Yet Rafa chose to spend 20m of our little transfer kitty on a striker instead, one he apaprently doesnt think is needed when we are chasing a game and need a goal. How can people keep living with their heads in the sand? This manager has made horrendous mistakes in the transfer market this summer and we are paying the cost of it now.

Sure we're two points clear in front of the pack (not for long though) but does anyone really think we are good enough? Does anyone really think the manager knows how to win this league? Is anyone convinced we can do it?

Not me. I've been dreaming these past few weeks that hthis may be the year but todays result and especially the manager's performance has woken me up. Not a chance this season as far as I'm concerned, in fact I'd be willing to bet we're out of it by end of January tops. And if that happens the blame solely rests ont he manager's doorsteps. He's the one that squandered money in the summer, he's the one that has failed to fill the side with enough attacking talent to break defences down and he's the one that is failing to take games by the scruff of the neck.

Totally ****in agree with this guy