Chelsea build up

[Joe King]

You're becoming rather tedious to be honest Ben/Joe. Change the record at least some of the time will you mate?

Why should I change my stance so it suits the optimist RCDNW brigade?

[Liverpool]

Why should I change my stance so it suits the optimist RCDNW brigade?

A bit of balance and perspective wouldnt go a miss.

[Joe King]

A bit of balance and perspective wouldnt go a miss.

I feel I do balance my arguments but my conclusions are those that we won't do much or anything this season especially with Benitez at the helm.

[RedReet]

Why should I change my stance so it suits the optimist RCDNW brigade?

Because you are a bore!

[Reece]

Why should I change my stance so it suits the optimist RCDNW brigade?

No one is asking you to change your stance - just to stop trying to emulate Rashid. But in the majority of your posts at the moment you don't just criticise the manager but you do so with petty little digs. The same goes for the players - your abuse of Kuyt has been utterly pathetic at times.

[Joe King]

No one is asking you to change your stance - just to stop trying to emulate Rashid. But in the majority of your posts at the moment you don't just criticise the manager but you do so with petty little digs. The same goes for the players - your abuse of Kuyt has been utterly pathetic at times.

I'm not trying to emulate Rashid at all, anything but. I have had enough with Benitez and his constant crap this season. He is 'cracking up'.

[Baldemort]

It may bore some people, but it brings balance to the site when people do criticise Rafa. Why shouldn't they? Just as he has his fans who literally believe he can do no wrong and look for some laughably far fetched reasons to explain his failings, he will and should have critics who will be quick to point out his inadequacies. It's just healthy debate.

The only time it pisses me off is when people start insulting Rafa.

[Joe King]

It may bore some people, but it brings balance to the site when people do criticise Rafa. Why shouldn't they? Just as he has his fans who literally believe he can do no wrong and look for some laughably far fetched reasons to explain his failings, he will and should have critics who will be quick to point out his inadequacies. It's just healthy debate.

The only time it pisses me off is when people start insulting Rafa.

I think its more that the posters don't want to realise the real truth about Benitez and his failings. They would rather back him no matter what dark alley he is leading the club to. NO man should be shielded from criticism especially Benitez with the lack of improvement he has made in the Premiership over his tenure.

[wiw]

Why should I change my stance so it suits the optimist RCDNW brigade?

It's stuff like that - there's no need

[Liverpool]

I think its more that the posters don't want to realise the real truth about Benitez and his failings. They would rather back him no matter what dark alley he is leading the club to. NO man should be shielded from criticism especially Benitez with the lack of improvement he has made in the Premiership over his tenure.

Who do you sugguest to replace him who is currently available?

[Joe King]

Who do you sugguest to replace him who is currently available?

Does someone have to be 'currently available'? Surely a club like Liverpool can attract many managers from around the world? I would like to see a real winner like Mourinho or Hiddink

[Reece]

It may bore some people, but it brings balance to the site when people do criticise Rafa. Why shouldn't they? Just as he has his fans who literally believe he can do no wrong and look for some laughably far fetched reasons to explain his failings, he will and should have critics who will be quick to point out his inadequacies. It's just healthy debate.

The only time it pisses me off is when people start insulting Rafa.

Again, no one is saying that Rafa can't be criticised, but not when it basically becomes the agenda of a poster to do so (and as I said do so with petty, derogatory comments).

[Baldemort]

I think its more that the posters don't want to realise the real truth about Benitez and his failings. They would rather back him no matter what dark alley he is leading the club to. NO man should be shielded from criticism especially Benitez with the lack of improvement he has made in the Premiership over his tenure.

Of course not. But I think it's hard to criticise him outright at the moment as most fans will tell you to look at the table. And they're right for now. I was saying the same thing only a few months ago, but it's the way he's reverted to the same whacky line ups and subs that's made me lose a little faith in him. I thought he had learned and left all that behind. Lord knows how much he will mess about with line ups etc once the CL starts again. He's still a great manager, but some seem to think he's infallible and immune to criticism, which is just plain idiotic.

[Liverpool]

Does someone have to be 'currently available'? Surely a club like Liverpool can attract many managers from around the world? I would like to see a real winner like Mourinho or Hiddink

I doubt either of them would jump at the chance to join Liverpool with the way things are though.

[Baldemort]

Again, no one is saying that Rafa can't be criticised, but not when it basically becomes the agenda of a poster to do so (and as I said do so with petty, derogatory comments).

That's fair. If it's biased negativity with no basis other than an agenda, then it's pointless. But being new to the site and having spent years on other sites, I can tell you for sure that this place is a lot less anti Rafa than others. He gets a massive amount of stick elsewhere.