THE Ryan Babel thread

[Tatterdemalion]

Spot on.

For me that farce of a rapping collaboration sums it up. A player who according to himself still isnt performing as well as he should be (for the last 2 ****in years!). Should surely be focusing on more important matters..... Like his job. In my opinion he's not fit to wear that red shirt.

That for me is the crux of the matter. I'd be willing to back him if he worked hard but just wasn't good enough (until he was moved on) - and frankly what he does in his spare time should be his business, but knowing how much some fans put into his wages, if I were in his position I would want to keep a low profile until I was performing. Which incidentally, I would rather see him working on.

[Tatterdemalion]

From the daily HATE

Rafa Benitez fired a blunt message to Ryan Babel yesterday, warning him time is running out to salvage his Liverpool future after his £11.5million move from Ajax two years ago.
Ahead of Monday's home game with Aston Villa, Benitez said: 'Ryan has to give something to us this time and he knows it. He will have opportunities to prove himself with so many games coming up, but it is important he has the right mentality.
'Maybe there were some problems adapting to a new style when he arrived as a young player.
'He knows what is going on here now and hopefully can perform better. He accepts he has to perform at a different level this year.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz0Or6P4zRr

[Shanks]

Must be the only player in the team (and Doss) with negative equity.

The lad is a striker. Maybe Rafa should try playing him in that position a bit more often and get his confidence up.

[Lee]

From the daily HATE

Rafa Benitez fired a blunt message to Ryan Babel yesterday, warning him time is running out to salvage his Liverpool future after his £11.5million move from Ajax two years ago.
Ahead of Monday's home game with Aston Villa, Benitez said: 'Ryan has to give something to us this time and he knows it. He will have opportunities to prove himself with so many games coming up, but it is important he has the right mentality.
'Maybe there were some problems adapting to a new style when he arrived as a young player.
'He knows what is going on here now and hopefully can perform better. He accepts he has to perform at a different level this year.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz0Or6P4zRr

I don't think Rafa will get rid of Babel in the next week or two but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if he sold him in January.

People mention our 'weak squad' but given the fact that Babel doesn't really bring us anything at all, would it make a difference if we sold him? I think not. Shame because he had a good first season with us and I thought he'd get better and better, but he's regressed sadly.

[Harv]

Must be the only player in the team (and Doss) with negative equity.

The lad is a striker. Maybe Rafa should try playing him in that position a bit more often and get his confidence up.

He's not a striker. He's never played up front for club or country (maybe for u21's). He's played out wide in a 4-3-3 his whole career at Ajax and for Holland.

Good to see Rafa has given him a bollocking. He deserved it after that ****house effort he put in at Spurs.

[red g]

He's not a striker. He's never played up front for club or country (maybe for u21's). He's played out wide in a 4-3-3 his whole career at Ajax and for Holland.

Good to see Rafa has given him a bollocking. He deserved it after that ****house effort he put in at Spurs.

but he sees himself as a striker, sure he has said that himself and thats half the issue, i am not sure he is happy playing out left at all , hence in that ****ed up brain of his doesnt seem to give it his all out there

[DannyMan2006]

To all those who were quick to blame Ryan Babel.

Yes you all know who you are. I'm not going to try and change your minds as it would be a waste of my time. But I will call you all out on it.

After the Spurs game I read through a lot of the post match thread and Ryan Babel threads and the general feeling amongst a lot of people was that Liverpools ****e attacking display had all been down to Babel being ****. And that the reason LFC suddenly became so good was because Babel was taken off for Yossi.

I argued that the improvement was down To Spurs sitting back and no longer pressing us. This was dismissed. I argued that the real reason are team had not been good enough was a problem in centre midfield. This was dismissed. In fact I was told by a lot of people that Lucas had been one of the best players on the pitch.

I said at the time Babel did not have a good game, but that he did no worse than anyone else and that the problem was elsewhere.

I would be interested to know if people still feel we lost against Spurs because Ryan Babel was rubbish and that we would have won had Yossi started.

[Ben_Itez]

Well 'call' me out on it then Danny LMAO!!!

I gave him 3/10 as he played very poorly along with over half the team who werent up to their usual standard. Maybe some people blamed Babel entirely but i know i didnt.....it was a ****e team performance much like last night where Gerrard for once was one of our poorest players.

We win and lose as a team.

[red g]

Yes you all know who you are. I'm not going to try and change your minds as it would be a waste of my time. But I will call you all out on it.

After the Spurs game I read through a lot of the post match thread and Ryan Babel threads and the general feeling amongst a lot of people was that Liverpools ****e attacking display had all been down to Babel being ****. And that the reason LFC suddenly became so good was because Babel was taken off for Yossi.

I argued that the improvement was down To Spurs sitting back and no longer pressing us. This was dismissed. I argued that the real reason are team had not been good enough was a problem in centre midfield. This was dismissed. In fact I was told by a lot of people that Lucas had been one of the best players on the pitch.

I said at the time Babel did not have a good game, but that he did no worse than anyone else and that the problem was elsewhere.

I would be interested to know if people still feel we lost against Spurs because Ryan Babel was rubbish and that we would have won had Yossi started.

its purely mental to blame our spurs loss on a winger!! he contributed to it though but was in no way the main reason

[reds123]

When a team loses everyone wants to blame a player, and vs Spurs Babel was the scapegoat even though almost all the team was ****e!

[DannyMan2006]

Well 'call' me out on it then Danny LMAO!!!

I gave him 3/10 as he played very poorly along with over half the team who werent up to their usual standard. Maybe some people blamed Babel entirely but i know i didnt.....it was a ****e team performance much like last night where Gerrard for once was one of our poorest players.

We win and lose as a team.

I know what you said and all of that is not aimed at you, though parts obviously do apply to what you said. I agreed with everyone who said Babel was poor. But I don't think he was worse than anyone else - though you clearly do - and I don't think bringing Yossi on for Babel was the reason for our much improved performance, I can't remember your thoughts on that?

[Kenneth]

When a team loses everyone wants to blame a player, and vs Spurs Babel was the scapegoat

This is true, but the fact the specific criticism was unfair, it doesn't change the fact that he is ****.

[DannyMan2006]

This is true, but the fact the specific criticism was unfair, it doesn't change the fact that he is ****.

personal opinion of a players ability is one thing. But laying the blame on him for the whole teams performance is another. Especially when a winger impacts very little on the game in general - They can have a poor game personally but still have no real effect on how the rest of team develop the play.

[Ben_Itez]

I know what you said and all of that is not aimed at you, though parts obviously do apply to what you said. I agreed with everyone who said Babel was poor. But I don't think he was worse than anyone else - though you clearly do - and I don't think bringing Yossi on for Babel was the reason for our much improved performance, I can't remember your thoughts on that?

As said i thought he was 3/10 but without checking my post im pretty sure i gave about five players 4 or 5/10, maybe more. Maybe i get more frustrated with Babel as i thought he was going to be a world beater for us and if anything it seems to me as if he's gone backwards.

Yossi played better individually when he came on than Babel but i dont think you can equate that with our overall improvement, obviously it would have helped as he managed to keep possession but too many factors changed to say it was all down to Yossi. IIRC Gerrard moved into midfield and Spurs sat back much like Villa did last night.

[Rafael Benítez Maudes]

let's not start on our players

let's back them

give them the support

let's cheer them instead of booing them.

maybe if they know the fans are behind them

they will play alot better.



it's about the team

and the team has been ****.


the real liverpool is about to be unleashed


believe