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    Originally posted by fredo View Post
    Gerrard is 29 and I'm sure Rafa will try to curb his attacking instincts and convert him into a more rounded/defensively minded midfielder as soon as he finds a perfect foil for Torres upfront, someone like David Villa for example (not meaning it has to be Villa - but you get my point).

    I think that's where, long term, that we'll see Gerrard playing. It's simply because of the fact that sooner rather than later, he's going to lose his pace and his power, and that his energy will need conserving.
    Isnt Lampard 31? He's still scoring plenty of goals from attacking midfield.

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      Originally posted by dww View Post
      To generalise the point (and refer back to an earlier part of the discussion) I do wonder If there is a correlation between the posters who didn't rate Kuyt and Lucas (and the same for those who defend them).
      Not from me.
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        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
        Isnt Lampard 31? He's still scoring plenty of goals from attacking midfield.
        He only takes the penalties mate.

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          Originally posted by fredo View Post
          He only takes the penalties mate.
          Yeah, he never scores from anything other than penos.

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            Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
            Yeah, he never scores from anything other than penos.
            I've been waiting years for him to pioneer the deflected penalty.
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              Originally posted by dww View Post
              I've been waiting years for him to pioneer the deflected penalty.
              if anyone can..
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                Originally posted by dww View Post
                I've been waiting years for him to pioneer the deflected penalty.

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                  Originally posted by flyboy View Post
                  since you have made it personal now mr michael. why dont you run to your momma and tell her about me.
                  lol, epic failure



                  That wasn't making it personal, that was just pointing out a minor trend in your prior posting that might throw some light on your current efforts. Nowt wrong with a little context.
                  I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                  Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                  Now all my lies are proved untrue
                  And I must face the men I slew.
                  What tale shall serve me here among
                  Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    You just have to look at the list though to see that there is an element of the small sample size to those results. I actually think that paticularly against a team like Burnley a better/quicker passer like Lucas might be a better option than Mascherano even if he might be a less able destructive player.

                    It always surprises me that people feel we should attack these teams more and don't even consider that it might be an option to compromise somewhat on the defensive qualities of the most deep lying midfielder.
                    You could look back at last years numbers and you would see that Lucas was our top tackler by quite a margin.

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                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      Oi, you should shoulder some of the blame for calling all lurkers out. Now look what you've started.

                      Sin Bin for V also.

                      Bit harsh Im just trying to liven things up around here. If that means a few more nutcases come forward then great

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                        Ha ha, it was worth it just to read the worst put down ever.
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I think you make some valid points there.

                          I remember an aritcle done by Vickery when we signed Lucas saying he was a Gerrard type box to box player however since his arival we have seen very little of this. To compare anyone to the likes of Gerrard is stupid IMO because we are talking about a player who is at the top echelons of the game and a player who would walk into any team. Lucas did contribute in an attacking sense last season in fact I recall one defense splitting pass to Stevie G against Newcastle resulting in a goal which was very reminiscent of Alonso.

                          There are lots Lucas can improve on but I do think that he deserves a little bit of credit and time for the attitude and professionalism he is showing. He is clearly highly thought of at Melwood and every interview I read or hear is about him wanting to improve and wanting to become a better player. He is improving and hopefully we will see in develop into the dynamic midfielder we thought we were getting when we signed him.
                          **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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                            Originally posted by BrianF80 View Post
                            You could look back at last years numbers and you would see that Lucas was our top tackler by quite a margin.
                            If memory serves me, the figures may well be in this thread somewhere, that is only true of one source of stats and most of the complete season stats suggest otherwise (although he still performed very well in that area).
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              Originally posted by dww View Post
                              If memory serves me, the figures may well be in this thread somewhere, that is only true of one source of stats and most of the complete season stats suggest otherwise (although he still performed very well in that area).
                              Don't make me upload my spreadsheet

                              Sod it, you asked for it.



                              BTW Scanned the thread and can't see the stats you mentioned, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it, I believe mine are accurate but double checking never hurts.
                              Last edited by BrianF80; 16-09-09, 10:44 AM.

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                                Originally posted by flyboy View Post
                                since you have made it personal now mr michael. why dont you run to your momma and tell her about me.


                                That's almost as good as wallow in yourself. Mr Michael's new title - "runs to momma"
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