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Not from me.Originally posted by dww View PostTo generalise the point (and refer back to an earlier part of the discussion) I do wonder If there is a correlation between the posters who didn't rate Kuyt and Lucas (and the same for those who defend them).Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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lol, epic failureOriginally posted by flyboy View Postsince you have made it personal now mr michael. why dont you run to your momma and tell her about me.

That wasn't making it personal, that was just pointing out a minor trend in your prior posting that might throw some light on your current efforts. Nowt wrong with a little context.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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You could look back at last years numbers and you would see that Lucas was our top tackler by quite a margin.Originally posted by dww View PostYou just have to look at the list though to see that there is an element of the small sample size to those results. I actually think that paticularly against a team like Burnley a better/quicker passer like Lucas might be a better option than Mascherano even if he might be a less able destructive player.
It always surprises me that people feel we should attack these teams more and don't even consider that it might be an option to compromise somewhat on the defensive qualities of the most deep lying midfielder.
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Originally posted by Neil Young View PostI think you make some valid points there.
I remember an aritcle done by Vickery when we signed Lucas saying he was a Gerrard type box to box player however since his arival we have seen very little of this. To compare anyone to the likes of Gerrard is stupid IMO because we are talking about a player who is at the top echelons of the game and a player who would walk into any team. Lucas did contribute in an attacking sense last season in fact I recall one defense splitting pass to Stevie G against Newcastle resulting in a goal which was very reminiscent of Alonso.
There are lots Lucas can improve on but I do think that he deserves a little bit of credit and time for the attitude and professionalism he is showing. He is clearly highly thought of at Melwood and every interview I read or hear is about him wanting to improve and wanting to become a better player. He is improving and hopefully we will see in develop into the dynamic midfielder we thought we were getting when we signed him.
**** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.
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If memory serves me, the figures may well be in this thread somewhere, that is only true of one source of stats and most of the complete season stats suggest otherwise (although he still performed very well in that area).Originally posted by BrianF80 View PostYou could look back at last years numbers and you would see that Lucas was our top tackler by quite a margin."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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Don't make me upload my spreadsheetOriginally posted by dww View PostIf memory serves me, the figures may well be in this thread somewhere, that is only true of one source of stats and most of the complete season stats suggest otherwise (although he still performed very well in that area).
Sod it, you asked for it.

BTW Scanned the thread and can't see the stats you mentioned, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it, I believe mine are accurate but double checking never hurts.Last edited by BrianF80; 16-09-09, 10:44 AM.
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Originally posted by flyboy View Postsince you have made it personal now mr michael. why dont you run to your momma and tell her about me.
That's almost as good as wallow in yourself. Mr Michael's new title - "runs to momma"
"My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.
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