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    #61
    Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
    i baffles how people can be so closed minded over this. just because you think the guy is a **** dont let that cloud ur mind over his talent. everybody i talk to about lfc agrees on 3 things.......firstly we are way too reliant on ste and torres........secondly lucas is utter garbage......and thirdly we dont utilise babel as much as we should. other teams rate him and quite rightly so.
    You can have all the talent in the world, but if you're just plain old stoopid you will never get anywhere...Babel falls into this category. He will never make it in one of the major leagues.

    I don't know what your mates are watching, but mine all seem to agree with me
    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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      #62
      we live in a world where craig bellamy has had a degree of success.

      understand what harv is really saying here.
      dave of mutilation

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        #63
        Originally posted by PeteBest View Post
        It is not laziness, I think he fooled most of you. At least he's good at that. If you look at Babel closely during matches, you'll see that he is completely clueless at what he should do with the ball when he's got it, or how to position himself and create space when he hasn't got it. He always takes the wrong option and ends up in blind alleys.

        His goal against Lyon was the more exceptional as his run wasn't good at all, as he drifted infield and he was close to getting outnumbered, then he lashed it and scored a great goal. His lack of celebration after his goal simply showed that he was lucky to score.
        That is the biggest load of turd I've read in my life. No offence.
        My kebab comes with chilli sauce

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          #64
          I'm not a fan of Babel at all but he does offer things we don't have elsewhere in the squad - i.e. pace and directness. So I do really hope he fulfills the talent that everyone else sees.

          I think it is easy to see that he has some aspects to his game like pace and a good shot but in the equally important areas of awareness, movement and determination he has very little to offer at present. He may well be a late bloomer - he certainly seems to be getting the message (finally) that closing down the opposition is in general a good idea when we don't have the ball.

          I can't decide if he is a bit lazy or it's a combination of being easily put off - i.e. when things don't come off for him he doesn't keep trying but goes into his shall and a lack of tactical nous but he is bloody annoying to watch.

          That said I was quite enjoying see one of our players zip about the pitch for the first 5 minutes against City. However other than the goal against Lyon it's the best he has done all season.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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            #65
            Can we just get rid of this cunt the day the window opens. I am sick and tired of watching this clearly talented player not fulfill his potential.

            The only consolation is that he does show glimpses of what he can do and this will hopefully have kept his price fairly high.

            Personally I think he should have been managed better but how dare I try to criticise Rafa, so I will stop right there with that one.
            "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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              #66
              Originally posted by saj View Post
              That is the biggest load of turd I've read in my life. No offence.
              I meant that he didn't have any idea of what he was doing when he started his run. He then went through the middle, saw that he was starting to get outnumbered then decided to take a punt long distance. The shot and goal was exceptional but his run wasn't. He never set out a shot like this, it just happened because he didn't have any choice.

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                #67
                Originally posted by PeteBest View Post
                I meant that he didn't have any idea of what he was doing when he started his run. He then went through the middle, saw that he was starting to get outnumbered then decided to take a punt long distance. The shot and goal was exceptional but his run wasn't. He never set out a shot like this, it just happened because he didn't have any choice.
                I kind of agree with you, the run was a bit Pennant like in that it seemed to be started with the vague hope that a gap would appear. That said though he was, unlike JP, looking for the opportunity and was ready to take it when it appeared.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Harv View Post
                  Uncalled?

                  The bloke is an utter ****. He does nothing but whinge and run into people....with the odd long range belter thrown in for good measure.

                  The sooner he leaves the better. He can't play football and he can't rap...he might as well kill himself
                  Yes, it was uncalled calling him various things for not trying to play through an injury and (not just minded at you btw) saying that he would be ready to train the day after, and he had no will to sacrifice himself for the team - when he was clearly injured and still is!

                  I agree he doesn't have the mental attributes needed to become a succes here, but that is far from enough to to warrant that kind of attack on one of our players when he gets injured.

                  And I know you won't admit that it was uncalled for - but I don't particular think it's the way we should support our players - however poor he might be.

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                    #69
                    I honestly hope he has broken his foot or done some serious damage because that is the only excuse for leaving the pitch on Saturday, he has waited for a chance to start gets hit with a bad tackle admittedly but then sits down on the floor, Stevie tries to gee him up and he limps off.
                    If he is fit to play in the next week to 10 days I will be livid because it'll prove that yes he was tackled hard but could have played on with it to help himself as much as the team.

                    He has no ****ing desire that bloke, no passion to play for the shirt
                    The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                      #70
                      “Normally I would pass the ball – now I take the shot myself more often. I see how they look at me with a face that says; 'Hey I am free!'

                      “But I'm not going to explain it any further because they don't give me any explanation when I ask for the ball.

                      Kinell Ryan, you really are a ****ing douchebag muther****er

                      LFC material i think not.

                      You are the weakest link...goodbye
                      "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                      "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Harv View Post
                        Kinell Ryan, you really are a ****ing douchebag muther****er

                        LFC material i think not.

                        You are the weakest link...goodbye
                        WTF is that quote? Babel on Twitter? In what context has he said that?
                        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                          #72
                          from the Echo mate

                          Outspoken Babel opens up Reds exit

                          Nov 24 2009 by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
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                          RYAN BABEL is edging closer to the Anfield exit after launching an astonishing attack on manager Rafa Benitez and his team-mates.

                          The Dutchman, who misses tonight’s Champions League clash with Debrecen due to injury, insists Benitez is partly to blame for his failure to make the grade in the Premier League.

                          And the 22-year-old claims his progress has been hampered by the “selfish” attitude of some Reds stars.

                          Babel’s comments look set to be the final nail in his Liverpool career with Benitez likely to offload the under-achieving winger during the January transfer window.

                          “I have tried to talk to the manager but it isn't of any use,” Babel said.

                          “I couldn't really do anything with the feedback Benitez gave me.

                          “His philosophy is simple – try your hardest in training and then your chance will come. But sometimes I wonder how long I can sustain it.

                          “Many players can play lots of bad matches and still keep their credits – I can't.

                          “Benitez is not a man who will give you his trust straightaway. Benitez is a manager who in certain situations can do exactly the opposite of what you expect several times.

                          “Every time me or my agent (Willie Haatrecht) have a chat with him he stresses I can't leave and he believes in me.

                          “We have to trust he is telling the truth. Saying it is different to showing it. We have agreed to look at my situation during the winter break. If there's no improvement then, I have to be honest, I want to play somewhere else.

                          “I still want to stay at Liverpool. I just have the feeling, for many people, I still have to prove myself.

                          “I think that is unjustified and a pity. I have shown I can do it plenty of times. I know I could be further in my career but if nobody helps you, if they don't make it easier for you then it is difficult.

                          “In 2½ years with Liverpool I have never started three matches in a row.”

                          Babel, who has come off the bench 58 times out of his 105 Liverpool appearances, was also critical of his Anfield team-mates.

                          “All the forwards, they always live for their own success. It is hard for someone who isn't selfish by nature to act selfish,” he said.

                          “I don't know if my team-mates were shocked by my new character but I do notice once in a while they get confused.

                          “Normally I would pass the ball – now I take the shot myself more often. I see how they look at me with a face that says; 'Hey I am free!'

                          “But I'm not going to explain it any further because they don't give me any explanation when I ask for the ball.

                          “We have a lot of different cultures and on the pitch we are a tight group. But outside the pitch everyone goes their own way.

                          “The Spanish-speaking guys are very close. The youths hang out together. And I get along with Benayoun and Lucas.

                          “Dirk Kuyt? I don't really hang out with him. Dirk got accepted in the group of the Spanish-speaking players. He is very friendly with them and it looks as if he understands their jokes.”

                          Babel signed for £11.5million from Ajax in the summer of 2007 but after a promising first season, when he was voted Liverpool's Young Player of the Year, he has regularly failed to impress.
                          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            WTF is that quote? Babel on Twitter? In what context has he said that?
                            What's his twitter account? I've got one where he's put a monikor 'On the bench' ... not sure it's the real him. Anyway, he hasn't said anything of the sort on that account.

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                              #74
                              “Dirk Kuyt? I don't really hang out with him. Dirk got accepted in the group of the Spanish-speaking players. He is very friendly with them and it looks as if he understands their jokes.”
                              Dirk you sell out.
                              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Harv View Post
                                from the Echo mate
                                ****ing hell. Close the door on your way out, ****face.
                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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