Liverpool v Stoke - Post match anguish thread

[Mattshark]

cant you see that we are in a decline that rafa cannot stop ? 5 wins in 20 whatever games with 10 or so losses. This is not just one bad season it is THE worst season.

What will it take for idiots like you to sit up and realise that rafa cant turn this club around.

No it is ONE bad season.

Why can't he turn it around exactly?

[Bender]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "The fans are amazing. If I decide to stay here it will be because of the fans. I will keep going. Sometimes you have bad moments and now is the time when we have to show character."

[YNWA_IRE]

Well I'm totally gutted but I cannot believe the drivel being written on here.

We were never, ever, EVER gonna go there today and play champagne football. The performance IMO was just what the doctor ordered. FFS we showed heart, guts and some ****ing fight for once. I've been wondering if those players cared, especially after Reading, and now I know they do. They really do. So in that sense I'm pleased.

Reina was outstanding, as were Lucas and Kyrgiakos. Skrtel was much better, as was Insua.

We got back to basics and put some foundations in place to move forward. I had no confidence for the Spurs game and today has given me some. Should've won anyway after that utterly disgraceful decision from that CUNT LEE Mason...and how did Dirk miss that at the end (what a ball from Fabio too)?

Bang on the money.

[Taxi]

When was the last time one of our players ran at a defender and actually succeeded in getting past him????
We seem so slow and scared going forward that every attacking move ends with a harmless pass backwards or sidewards - even Matthew Etherington is a Mini-Messi compared to our players...

Benayoun does it every match he plays

[SimonNo7]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "The fans are amazing. If I decide to stay here it will be because of the fans. I will keep going. Sometimes you have bad moments and now is the time when we have to show character."

[The Erectile Banana]

Well I'm totally gutted but I cannot believe the drivel being written on here.

We were never, ever, EVER gonna go there today and play champagne football. The performance IMO was just what the doctor ordered. FFS we showed heart, guts and some ****ing fight for once. I've been wondering if those players cared, especially after Reading, and now I know they do. They really do. So in that sense I'm pleased.

Reina was outstanding, as were Lucas and Kyrgiakos. Skrtel was much better, as was Insua.

We got back to basics and put some foundations in place to move forward. I had no confidence for the Spurs game and today has given me some. Should've won anyway after that utterly disgraceful decision from that CUNT LEE Mason...and how did Dirk miss that at the end (what a ball from Fabio too)?

Shaggy, I agree with parts of your post but the fact that the players actually showed some fight is not something that we should be pleased about. This is a minimum requirement for any team and something that we should expect to see in every performance.

For me today's performance met our minimum requirements in a way that the Reading match did not. There was still an alarming lack of quality on the balll bar a couple of lovely deliveries from Aurelio. We scored a scappy, slightly fortuitous goal, then retreated into our shells and invited a team that excels at set pieces onto us for the last half an hour. Given how Stoke play we were always going to give up one or two good chances from dead ball situations. We did and they made us pay. Kuyt was unlucky not to score at the death but given the overall balance on the game I think a draw was fair.

There was still nothing on display today that convinced me that we can recover from our current malaise. Stoke are a phyiscal intimidating side and we did well to battle for most of the match and Kyrgiakos and Reina were outstanding but there was a paucity to our football that leaves me worried.

[kingfunk]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "The fans are amazing. If I decide to stay here it will be because of the fans. I will keep going. Sometimes you have bad moments and now is the time when we have to show character."

Any vid links?

[Leyton388]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "The fans are amazing. If I decide to stay here it will be because of the fans. I will keep going. Sometimes you have bad moments and now is the time when we have to show character."

That sound like he is undecided to me.
And ****ing england have lost another wicket and are 48-3

[Mattshark]

Shaggy, I agree with parts of your post but the fact that the players actually showed some fight is not something that we should be pleased about. This is a minimum requirement for any team and something that we should expect to see in every performance.

For me today's performance met our minimum requirements in a way that the Reading match did not. There was still an alarming lack of quality on the balll bar a couple of lovely deliveries from Aurelio. We scored a scappy, slightly fortuitous goal, then retreated into our shells and invited a team that excels at set pieces onto us for the last half an hour. Given how Stoke play we were always going to give up one or two good chances from dead ball situations. We did and they made us pay. Kuyt was unlucky not to score at the death but given the overall balance on the game I think a draw was fair.

There was still nothing on display today that convinced me that we can recover from our current malaise. Stoke are a phyiscal intimidating side and we did well to battle for most of the match and Kyrgiakos and Reina were outstanding but there was a paucity to our football that leaves me worried.

Would this have been a good game to thrown in new or recently back from injury players though? And it is obvious we need another striker.
People are saying Pacheco should have played, but seriously, he would have got slaughtered.

[Guest]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "The fans are amazing. If I decide to stay here it will be because of the fans. I will keep going. Sometimes you have bad moments and now is the time when we have to show character."

You see, the guy is a ****ing legend. It's about how we stick together during bad times AS WELL as good times mate. Fans not sticking with him during such times are a disgrace, no matter how bad it is and how hard it is for us at the moment.

[Bender]

You see, the guy is a ****ing legend. It's about how we stick together during bad times AS WELL as good times mate. Fans not sticking with him during such times are a disgrace, no matter how bad it is and how hard it is for us at the moment.

i thought you left

[el matador]

No it is ONE bad season.

Why can't he turn it around exactly?

A blip is a 5 game bad run which you can turn around, but we have been pretty poor since the start of the season. You cant turn around a 20 odd game poor run.

In fact a 20 odd bad run suggests something more 'permanent' than a bad run.

There's just too many things. Rafa isnt capable of turning this around and if he stays until the end of the season we wont finish top half let alone top 4.

Its time to make a change now.

[hamshanks]

Defeat against Spurs and he's gone - dark days indeed

[Tatterdemalion]

I thought he'd already decided to stay when he signed his 5 year contact?

[Mattshark]

A blip is a 5 game bad run which you can turn around, but we have been pretty poor since the start of the season. You cant turn around a 20 odd game poor run.

In fact a 20 odd bad run suggests something more 'permanent' than a bad run.

There's just too many things. Rafa isnt capable of turning this around and if he stays until the end of the season we wont finish top half let alone top 4.

Its time to make a change now.

Yes, that is why I said season.

You have not at all backed up your argument in the slightest.

What good would change do?

honestly, someone swapped your brain for a muffin.