Arsenal v Liverpool post match thread

[Ben_Itez]

at the end i wasn't putting it past degen to to wait for agger and gerrard to tee up the ball for the fk, and then run past them and **** the ball into touch

if he wasn't arsenal's best player today, he was ****ing close.

Yep he had a total mare. Positionally woeful.

[little dave hedgehog]

is he forest gump in disguise?

[Craig_H]

Why does Gerrard dive so much? Very odd.

I thought we were pathetic, yet actually derserved to win.

Think you'll finish 4th, but that was one of the worst/defensive performances a team has given this year.

Oh you're back tonight...

Funny that

[ronanm]

Just back. No doubt about it, Arsenal were there for the taking. Ngog is too inexperienced to lead the line. Maxi - taxi for Maxi after he missed that sitter. Very impressed with Masherano, Agger and Insua. The rest weren't anywhere near the standard required - SG was alright and Kuyt did well enough. A draw would have been fair SG get off the rhs corners!!!! Very poor. Would play Riera ahead of Maxi

[Will]

Why does Gerrard dive so much? Very odd.

I thought we were pathetic, yet actually derserved to win.

Think you'll finish 4th, but that was one of the worst/defensive performances a team has given this year.

I think that would be when you put 6 past Everton at Goodison dont you? Or would it be when you put 6 past Blackburn at the Emirates? Our defensive performance was crap? Really? And you could only score one goal and creat one or two chances. Get more sense out of a Yid.

[Craig_H]

I agree. Its totally out of character. I can't ever remember him diving in his 12 years in the first team.

Not sure why you need to be a sarcastic smart-arse about it.

I was talking about when he has a chance to score, not when he feels the chance is gone and the best he can do is win a freekick/peno.

[greystoneslfc]

Sorry if someone else has replicated this rant somewhere else in this thread, but I gave up looking about halfway through.

Our team at present is not exactly world-beating, but nor has it been since about '88.

Reina - best goalkeeper going IMO, defo not his fault tonight.
People blame Degen, like they did Dossena & Johnson, Eboue scored from the centre of the 6 yard box, not our full backs problem, cross from the left not the right as well!
Centre~halves, Skrtle,Agger,Krgyiakos & Carragher - fine, no worries there.
Midfield - host of options, most of them good - Maxi & Lucas are rated highly in their own countries for a reason. Gerrard hasn't turned up for a match yet - turn on him if you dare!
Offense- Benyi, Kuyt, Ngog, Riera, Torres

Apologies if the spelling isn't very good, but a rake of booze will do that to ya!

We can & will beat anyone, but also lose - Ngog is a fine player, but not ready to lead the line by himself. Torres frightens teams, allowing space for everyone else, but he is also the reason that we can't buy a second class forward. Why would anyone go knowing they'll be 2'nd fiddle to the best striker in the world?

[Craig_H]

Sorry if someone else has replicated this rant somewhere else in this thread, but I gave up looking about halfway through.

Our team at present is not exactly world-beating, but nor has it been since about '88.

Reina - best goalkeeper going IMO, defo not his fault tonight.
People blame Degen, like they did Dossena & Johnson, Eboue scored from the centre of the 6 yard box, not our full backs problem, cross from the left not the right as well!
Centre~halves, Skrtle,Agger,Krgyiakos & Carragher - fine, no worries there.
Midfield - host of options, most of them good - Maxi & Lucas are rated highly in their own countries for a reason. Gerrard hasn't turned up for a match yet - turn on him if you dare!
Offense- Benyi, Kuyt, Ngog, Riera, Torres

Apologies if the spelling isn't very good, but a rake of booze will do that to ya!

We can & will beat anyone, but also lose - Ngog is a fine player, but not ready to lead the line by himself. Torres frightens teams, allowing space for everyone else, but he is also the reason that we can't buy a second class forward. Why would anyone go knowing they'll be 2'nd fiddle to the best striker in the world?

That's exactly why it was Degen's fault.

When the ball is the right flank, the left fullback comes out to meet the crosser, and the whole rest of the back four shifts across because of this.

Degen left the fella in acres of space and with all the time in the world.

Shocking defending.

[greystoneslfc]

That's exactly why it was Degen's fault.

When the ball is the right flank, the left fullback comes out to meet the crosser, and the whole rest of the back four shifts across because of this.

Degen left the fella in acres of space and with all the time in the world.

Shocking defending.

I can see you point to a degree, but I still disagree (if you know what I mean!), enough defenders in the box to deal with that cross without Degen needing to stand on he edge of the 6 yard box.

(Read my previous posts BTW, I will defend any current planyer to the hilt - always!)

[Craig_H]

The point was, if Degen's positioning was correct, he'd have cut the cross out easily.

[greystoneslfc]

The point was, if Degen's positioning was correct, he'd have cut the cross out easily.

Ergo Skrtyel, Reina, Mascherano & Lucas.

[Craig_H]

Ergo Skrtyel, Reina, Mascherano & Lucas.

Well no, because with the backline shifting across, it would've (SHOULD'VE) been Degen who was standing in the position to intercept it.

[vlahka]

Gerrards free kick at the end wasnt a penalty. The guy was just infront of the box so it would of been a free kick if the ref had eyes. I also think Ngog should of not played and instead stuffed Kuyt up front with Maxi on the right. Would of been a bit better. Still, team tried. That keeps me happy.

[greystoneslfc]

Well no, because with the backline shifting across, it would've (SHOULD'VE) been Degen who was standing in the position to intercept it.

Again Craig, I see your point, but I blame the entire defense, not just one player.

Arsenal late '80s - Lee Dixon would have cleared that

Liverpool today. when we are the back foot anyway, but still one of our center-halves should have had that away.

Like I said before Craig, I see your point, I'm as disappointed as anyone in the result, but it's a team game, singling out individuals for blame I don't go for.

[Craig_H]

It is indeed a team game, but when one player makes a mistake, it's not prohibited to say so.

You're probably right about Dixon, as he too was a rightback but he'd have probably got his positioning right.