The New Manager Thread

[andrewces38]

When Kenny met Harry.

Together on ITV now..

Soccer Aid..

And Sammi There too ...............Player manager anyone?

[Maxiedge]

Jean Michel Ferri was qwwwwwwwwwality

[5europeancups]

i doubt houlliers abitliy to sign good players. most of his signings where dodgy and that was when being backed not having to scrimp on second and third choice players.

You say most of his signings were dodgy.

what percentage? Then ask yourself what percentage of signings of Benitez or Wenger or Fergie's signings are/ were dodgy.

Houlliers biggest issue was that he lost the team.

He signed some muppets certainly but who hasnt? I remember when we were all creaming ourslves over the two gems who had just won the U20 tournament for France single handedly.
We couldnt belieive our good luck at the time.

However he did sign some grea players whom with gArcia and Alonso and josemi got us to the final of the champs league which we then won.

How many of the team that Liverpool had when they won the Champs league where signed by Houllier?

Do the maths yourself, and he was never provided the resources that Benitez had at his disposal.

Benitez was the better manager in my opinion of the two, but Houllier should not be dismissed. He gave us some great nights, more than Benitez, but not as much hope as Benitez.

[Mattshark]

You say most of his signings were dodgy.

what percentage? Then ask yourself what percentage of signings of Benitez or Wenger or Fergie's signings are/ were dodgy.

Houlliers biggest issue was that he lost the team.

He signed some muppets certainly but who hasnt? I remember when we were all creaming ourslves over the two gems who had just won the U20 tournament for France single handedly.
We couldnt belieive our good luck at the time.

However he did sign some grea players whom with gArcia and Alonso and josemi got us to the final of the champs league which we then won.

How many of the team that Liverpool had when they won the Champs league where signed by Houllier?

Do the maths yourself, and he was never provided the resources that Benitez had at his disposal.

Benitez was the better manager in my opinion of the two, but Houllier should not be dismissed. He gave us some great nights, more than Benitez, but not as much hope as Benitez.

More wum ****e.

Benitez did consistantly better than Houllier did in the league, did far better in Europe and bought far better players and yes, he did have less at his disposal, when did Houllier ever have a net spend of 0 exactly?

[CJ]

You say most of his signings were dodgy.

what percentage? Then ask yourself what percentage of signings of Benitez or Wenger or Fergie's signings are/ were dodgy.

Houlliers biggest issue was that he lost the team.

He signed some muppets certainly but who hasnt? I remember when we were all creaming ourslves over the two gems who had just won the U20 tournament for France single handedly.
We couldnt belieive our good luck at the time.

However he did sign some grea players whom with gArcia and Alonso and josemi got us to the final of the champs league which we then won.

How many of the team that Liverpool had when they won the Champs league where signed by Houllier?

Do the maths yourself, and he was never provided the resources that Benitez had at his disposal.

Benitez was the better manager in my opinion of the two, but Houllier should not be dismissed. He gave us some great nights, more than Benitez, but not as much hope as Benitez.

good players signed by houllier

sami
didi
henchoz
finnan
heskey for a while
gary m

the rest wherent good enough at all. i would say that benitez has a better hit ratio of players and probably spent less on average every year.

i liked houllier as a man but he didnt leave a great team. look at the players who left they didnt go on to do alot did they?

[Bender]

More wum ****e.

Benitez did consistantly better than Houllier did in the league, did far better in Europe and bought far better players and yes, he did have less at his disposal, when did Houllier ever have a net spend of 0 exactly?

some of those were still crap ......and on par with some of Houlliers signings,amazing how on this site it's now a love fest for Rafa and now Houllier is getting slated....pathetic really

[CJ]

some of those were still crap ......and on par with some of Houlliers signings,amazing how on this site it's now a love fest for Rafa and now Houllier is getting slated....pathetic really

i am not slating Houllier. I am using context and that context is that Houllier was backed Rafa wasnt to the same extent.

however it is worth noting that Houllier completely turned us around. He introduced new methods the work at melwood brought back discipline. So Rafas job was easier than it would have been a few years earlier. However the team wasnt great that he left behind and Houllier got a real slating (more than rafa) in his last year.

both improved the club, in different ways. now saying Houllier didnt sign alot of good players isnt slating him.

[Mattshark]

some of those were still crap ......and on par with some of Houlliers signings,amazing how on this site it's now a love fest for Rafa and now Houllier is getting slated....pathetic really

Really? Do any of them fall into the Diao or Ferri category? Both bought when we had money to spend. Rafa has left the club with a much better side than Houllier did.

[Bender]

Really? Do any of them fall into the Diao or Ferri category? Both bought when we had money to spend. Rafa has left the club with a much better side than Houllier did.

Morientes
Gonzalez
Josemi
Pellegrino

[Bender]

i am not slating Houllier. I am using context and that context is that Houllier was backed Rafa wasnt to the same extent.

however it is worth noting that Houllier completely turned us around. He introduced new methods the work at melwood brought back discipline. So Rafas job was easier than it would have been a few years earlier. However the team wasnt great that he left behind and Houllier got a real slating (more than rafa) in his last year.

both improved the club, in different ways. now saying Houllier didnt sign alot of good players isnt slating him.

Nah wasn't having a go at you ...i was just generalising how this thread has gone love rafa/hate houllier

[Mattshark]

Morientes
Gonzalez
Josemi
Pellegrino

All better than Diao and Ferri. The only one there that was really not worth it was Josemi, but we swapped him pretty quickly for a much better player.

[Bender]

All better than Diao and Ferri. The only one there that was really not worth it was Josemi, but we swapped him pretty quickly for a much better player.

oh so your saying some **** is better than other ****...they were all flops

[banditos]

good players signed by houllier

sami
didi
henchoz
finnan
heskey for a while
gary m

the rest wherent good enough at all. i would say that benitez has a better hit ratio of players and probably spent less on average every year.

i liked houllier as a man but he didnt leave a great team. look at the players who left they didnt go on to do alot did they?

Add JAR to that list, but i agree, we had plenty of pretty average players under ged.

[Mattshark]

Morientes
Gonzalez
Josemi
Pellegrino

oh so your saying some **** is better than other ****...they were all flops

No, I am saying all those players where better purchases than Diao and Ferri. Them not working out happens, that doesn't mean they weren't better players and still better purchases.

[Mattshark]

Add JAR to that list, but i agree, we had plenty of pretty average players under ged.

And Babbel.