Benitez has lost the players

[Armchairkopite]

What players from the last three games do you guys think need a new manager to revitalise them, and why do you think these players are not performing for Rafa

[ElRobbie]

Gerrard needs a new manager for a start he has lost respect for rafa you can tell. Maybe because of the situation and lack of competition for places. You need to take into account the whole season.

[Neil Young]

Maybe he's lost the players, maybe he hasn't, but it seems strange to take a firm stance on the issue based on the look on a player's face. Who knows what's going through his mind?

[Craig_H]

Hes right though, the thing is the two toughest games we had left where away to Brum and at home to the Chavs, we knew we would drop at least two points over the these two games so Rafa is calling it right imo.

Problem now is that Citeh have their tails up.

Why? Why would we drop at least 2 points over these two games?

Why couldnt we just win all 6?

Failure mentality at the club and Benitez is overseeing it and tolerating it.

[ElRobbie]

Maybe he's lost the players, maybe he hasn't, but it seems strange to take a firm stance on the issue based on the look on a player's face. Who knows what's going through his mind?

It's not just that mate it's the whole season.

[Craig_H]

And regarding torres, if we had someone of quality to come in, we could rest torres - but look at our team when we need a goal and ask yourself where's the goal coming from? You'll name Torres and Gerrard, and that's it.

City turn out a side with Adebayor, Tevez, Bellamy, Adam Johnson in it - 4 players who they can turn to when you need a goal. We have 2.

Who's fault is that? Not rocket science.

[Armchairkopite]

Why? Why would we drop at least 2 points over these two games?

Why couldnt we just win all 6?

Failure mentality at the club and Benitez is overseeing it and tolerating it.

Going on current form and the fixtures left I would have expected to drop points at some stage and these two fixtures stood out as the potential pit falls.

Failure mentality seriously what a load of ****.

[Armchairkopite]

And regarding torres, if we had someone of quality to come in, we could rest torres - but look at our team when we need a goal and ask yourself where's the goal coming from? You'll name Torres and Gerrard, and that's it.

City turn out a side with Adebayor, Tevez, Bellamy, Adam Johnson in it - 4 players who they can turn to when you need a goal. We have 2.

Who's fault is that? Not rocket science.

Yea, Rafa should've bought them both in the Summer when they where available, God only knows why he didn't.

[Armchairkopite]

It's not just that mate it's the whole season.

Hes been injured for the most part and **** for most of the other, thats his problem hes played bloody well enough and is idolised by supporters across the globe.

[Craig_H]

Going on current form and the fixtures left I would have expected to drop points at some stage and these two fixtures stood out as the potential pit falls.

Failure mentality seriously what a load of ****.

That sums it up though - 'going on current form...' etc etc - basically, giving a ready made excuse to drop points. A losing mentality.

A winner's mentality would say we have better players, far more quality and a big need to win, so we'll go out there, utilise our quality and win the games.

But no, we're Liverpool - we accept failure and expect it.

Yea, Rafa should've bought them both in the Summer when they where available, God only knows why he didn't.

If he hadnt dropped the almighty bollock that was the Aquilani signing, he would've been able to buy another striker. But no, Rafa chose Aquilani and then we're left with having to put N'Gog in to replace Torres. Brilliant judgement there, it's cost us a CL place. Round of applause.

[Armchairkopite]

That sums it up though - 'going on current form...' etc etc - basically, giving a ready made excuse to drop points. A losing mentality.

A winner's mentality would say we have better players, far more quality and a big need to win, so we'll go out there, utilise our quality and win the games.

But no, we're Liverpool - we accept failure and expect it.

You said your self in a different thread that we could possibly afford to drop 2 points out of our remaining fixtures and still claim fourth so go and have a good talk with yourself and bring your defeatist attitude with you.

[Craig_H]

You said your self in a different thread that we could possibly afford to drop 2 points out of our remaining fixtures and still claim fourth so go and have a good talk with yourself and bring your defeatist attitude with you.

There's a difference though, in saying 'we could possibly afford to' and saying 'we knew we would drop at least two points'.

How am i the one with a deafetist attitude?

You're the one saying we knew we'd drop points and that it's ok - i'm saying our attitude should be one of expecting to win all 6 games and targetting that - not effectively saying 'well we werent gonna win all 6 anyway' - that is defeatist.

[wiw]

If he hadnt dropped the almighty bollock that was the Aquilani signing, he would've been able to buy another striker. But no, Rafa chose Aquilani and then we're left with having to put N'Gog in to replace Torres. Brilliant judgement there, it's cost us a CL place. Round of applause.

Ignoring the winner's mentality drivel, what sort of calibre of players (CM and striker) is he going to get for the price of Aquilani?

[Armchairkopite]

I dont have time for your ****e tonight, imo you make a mess of this forum with your **** arguments and your narrow mindedness.

Goodnight.

[Craig_H]

Ignoring the winner's mentality drivel, what sort of calibre of players (CM and striker) is he going to get for the price of Aquilani?

Why is it drivel? Do you think telling yourself that we 'will' drop points is a winning mentality?

As for players - i think City paid something like a third of the price for Adam Johnson, that we did for Aquilani - so he could've brought quality, pace and threat from a wide position, freeing up Babel or Kuyt to be an out and out striker.