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    #16
    Originally posted by red g View Post



    above all, the above quotes seem to be a million miles from Rafa's Approach and of all the players to benefit most i can see Stevie G responding to Roys style of management.

    I am genuinely excited
    This is the first thread I've come across in a long time that has given me some confidence this coming season.
    "That's how I found myself on the Kop that day I had my blue-and-white scarf safely tucked away inside my coat as I listened to Liverpool songs and swayed with the masses.

    Then City scored and I screeched and this big bloke, a Liverpool supporter, made towards me and I thought he was going to throttle me. But he just pulled my scarf from under my coat so it lay on the outside, and said: "You should always be proud of your colours, lad."

    Lee Chapman - Arsenal and England defender

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      #17
      Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
      this to me is the most interesting thing about roy. i'm not whinging about him getting the job. even if i wanted to, it's done. what i do want at the moment is to understand more about what he wants from this team. i am very interested to know who he wants on the field, in which positions and how he intends to use them.
      We really have no idea how he will play. With Fulham he had poor players overall and so had to work to their strengths but he has a team fully of internationals to work with now, so it will be interesting. If he gets to start with Torres and Gerrard I will be genuinely excited by the new season as I think a lot of teams will underestimate us.

      But I'm not encouraged by his statements on Gerrard and Torres today.

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        #18
        all i'm hoping for with roys tactics is to let the players off the leash.

        we basically are at a cross-roads and i say let the players play freely and attacking and see what happens.

        4-4-2 or 3-5-2 is what i'm hoping he goes for. . . . . . basically a 2 man attack with no more 2 defensive midfielders.
        People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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          #19
          Given our personel I think we will play 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 or some variant of that. Nice to see that he believes in letting players play in their actual position and he seems to be a no-nonsense type of guy, probably won't over complicate things.

          I wonder what effect Roy can have on the career of Babel, will he use him as a forward or a winger? Babel just might be given a clean slate there.

          I feel a bit better about Roy, but if we have a slow start I think he will have hard job with the fans.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            #20
            "I would always hope my players are happy because I am a great believer in putting round pegs in round holes. If you move players around and play them out of position, then there is a risk they might react negatively.

            This is great. Exactly what is needed.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Marsh View Post
              nothing pops into my head when i think how do his teams play.

              i wonder how long it will take to get our team how he wants.
              'Boring football' pops into my head. i just can't believe so many fans put so much store in one bloody season, one bloody season!

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                #22
                I think it is pretty clear he will play with 4 at the back, with only one full back getting forward at any time. I like this approach. I'm all for pressing teams but three at the back at anytime keeps us solid.

                He also likes wingers who keep to their position. Anyone who watched England will see how Gerrard on the left wing sometimes had England over exposed or short of width. This will not happen under Hodgson.

                It also has me question on whether or not Kuyt will be employed as a winger. I think his days on the right are numbered tbh and I for one would be delighted with this. He likes mobile players on the wings who can stick position but also get in the box when the ball is on the other flank to provide options. I'm not sure Kuyt fits the bill.

                He has the two central midfielders as equals. He does not have a ball winner and a ball player. both get involved. They provide cover for the back four but they also get attacks started. Does Mascherano fit this system? Would Gerrard be an ideal player for this position? All questions that need answering.

                After that it is down to whether he goes with two strikers up top or just the one. He mentions he prefers two, but only if they are good enough and available. Again this could lead me to think that omeone like Kuyt or Babel could be moved to a more forward role, or possibly have him purchasing a striker or two.

                I think if we were to deploy a system that played two strikers, LFC would be a bit short in that area. With limited cash funds that could cause a problem. As I said we have the likes of Babel, Kuyt and also Jovanovic who could be moved to a central striking position to add to Torres and N'Gog, but moving them there would leave the wings short, especially if Yossi was to leave.

                Also, are Kuyt, Babel and Jovanovic good enough to play as central strikers?

                Plenty of questions that need addressing.
                Forwards.......

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post

                  I wonder what effect Roy can have on the career of Babel, will he use him as a forward or a winger? Babel just might be given a clean slate there.
                  agreed, if he can get babel playing to his supposed potential he'd be like a new signing

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                    #24
                    Do his teams normally use zonal or man marking?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by tsb View Post
                      Do his teams normally use zonal or man marking?
                      Zonal, but not sure about set-pices.
                      Forwards.......

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                        #26
                        i think its zonal as apparently he was the man to introduce zonal marking to the swedes i think.

                        if he can get babel playing anywhere near his best then it would add a lot to us but i still dont know what his best position is one thing is clear though i cant see him playing any more games on the left.

                        if they can get him playing up front or on the right then we might have a player. kuyt is under threat for me unless he moves up front with torres but he doesnt have enough pace to threaten in behind and i can see him being one of the victims of hodgson.

                        another interesting one is lucas. will he get more freedom under hodgson to go forward.

                        there are lots of questions and hodgson is trying to figure out the answers. lets give him some time and see what he comes up with.
                        [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                          #27
                          Cool, was fearing there would be a wrench for the existing players moving from zonal to man which could have lead to some errors early in the season

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by tsb View Post
                            Cool, was fearing there would be a wrench for the existing players moving from zonal to man which could have lead to some errors early in the season
                            pretty sure if it was changed, sky would be telling us how great zonal was for Liverpool
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                              'Boring football' pops into my head. i just can't believe so many fans put so much store in one bloody season, one bloody season!
                              where the **** are you getting one season from? He's just had two outstanding seasons at fulham.
                              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                                #30
                                i think we might be seeing gerrard and lucas in midfield next season
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