Roy Hodgson's footballing philosophy

[Exiled_red]

For me he's a player who is all about confidence, if he is playing in a team full of confidence he puts in some great performances (Holland this world cup, and us 08-09season), when the team isn't playing well his level isn't as high and his perfomances drop (us last season).

[BillobShaisley]

i think it stems from the fact that he can have an absolutely **** game where his touch is worse then a 10 year old girl

Don't see that at all. He's tidy in a tight squeeze and can hold the ball up well IMO. Often see him closed down by 2 defenders in the corner and manage to get the ball to a team mate in space.

[Fernandinho]

Don't see that at all. He's tidy in a tight squeeze and can hold the ball up well IMO. Often see him closed down by 2 defenders in the corner and manage to get the ball to a team mate in space.

I didn't say that, I was simply stating that when Kuyt has a bad game he has a very bad game.

[BillobShaisley]

It can happen yeah, but I dont think his touch is the weak point. I also think he (like Lucas) would look much better in a team with more inteligent movement in front of him and better interplay in the final 3rd.

[G]

Several videos available on uefa.com of roy explaining his views on formations and in game situations.

http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/tactics/

[BobTheCharmer]

Several videos available on uefa.com of roy explaining his views on formations and in game situations.

http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/tactics/

I can't wait for the new season to start!

He talks a good game and I like the way he explains it all. I honestly think the system he chooses will be the one that gets the best from what players we have and will change it to suit whereas Rafa had his favoured system and stuck with regardless of player availability.

[Gaz]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvPQR49dsQ&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- uefa com - 4-4-2 Training[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF_uoyQ4Pd0&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- uefa com - 4-3-3 Training[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOOSemd9OG0&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- uefa com - 3-5-2 Training[/ame]

[banditos]

Maradona should have a look at those. He'd probably learn a lot.

[Mattshark]

I can't wait for the new season to start!

He talks a good game and I like the way he explains it all. I honestly think the system he chooses will be the one that gets the best from what players we have and will change it to suit whereas Rafa had his favoured system and stuck with regardless of player availability.

That really isn't true mate, we played a lot of different formations under Rafa, depending on the opposition and the available players.

[BrooklynRed]

We should be playing a 4-5-1, but unlike Spain, the Dutch and Germany, we don't need two holding midfielders; Aquilani should be playing CAM, Torres up top, Turan (*please*) and Kuyt on the wings, Lucas or Mascher in front of the back four, and Gerrard playing in the Schweinsteiger/Alonso role.

[G]

YouTube- uefa comÂ*-Â*4-4-2 Training

YouTube- uefa comÂ*-Â*4-3-3 Training

YouTube- uefa comÂ*-Â*3-5-2 Training

there are 3 more vids of him in the tactical dilemmas partof the uefa link i posted too

[el matador]

i think from looking at his explanations that he favours the 4 at the back, and 4 in midfield and 2 up front.

So as things stand, he probably wants to play 4-4-2 and im not sure if we have the personnel to play that system.

We dont have many orthodox wide players - probably only riera and he's probably on his way out.

to play this system we need at least one new left back (because we dont have two defensive midfielders any more and they cant cover insua;s arse everytime he's attacked), a defensive midfielder to replace masher and probably two new wide players one right, one left.

[dww]

Thanks for the videos PoolG and Gaz, they were really interesting.

They look a bit old though (or at least the teams referred to seem to be). I'd agree with el matador that we will certainly see a back for (Roy describes it as 'more or less sacrosanct') but it would be interesting o hear his views on the rise of more single striker teams and the various ways teams have adapted to that. Also I think now there have been teams with no constant 'reference' forward high up the pitch (Spalleti's Roma,United when Queiroz was assistant and at times Barcelona and arguably Spain).

I think the observation of our lack of wide players is also an interesting one. It is interesting to see Roy's emphasis on how the types of players at his disposal shape his tactical thinking. Maybe we will see something more 4-3-3 shaped given the players he has at his disposal.

Also some of the comments about Paul Ince as a potential CB and how that helped him play DM in a 3-5-2 might be pertinent given talk of Sharner coming in. Although I really would hope not.

[el matador]

Thanks for the videos PoolG and Gaz, they were really interesting.

They look a bit old though (or at least the teams referred to seem to be). I'd agree with el matador that we will certainly see a back for (Roy describes it as 'more or less sacrosanct') but it would be interesting o hear his views on the rise of more single striker teams and the various ways teams have adapted to that. Also I think now there have been teams with no constant 'reference' forward high up the pitch (Spalleti's Roma,United when Queiroz was assistant and at times Barcelona and arguably Spain).

I think the observation of our lack of wide players is also an interesting one. It is interesting to see Roy's emphasis on how the types of players at his disposal shape his tactical thinking. Maybe we will see something more 4-3-3 shaped given the players he has at his disposal.

Also some of the comments about Paul Ince as a potential CB and how that helped him play DM in a 3-5-2 might be pertinent given talk of Sharner coming in. Although I really would hope not.

You know football goes through certain trends and at certain times one particular system is more popular than others.

At the moment its the four at the back and one up front with any combination of 5 in the middle either 2 - 3 or 3 - 2.

Arsene wenger called it before the world cup in that he thought this would be the tournament where you would see more teams use the 'more structured midfield' approach to matches whereby one is upfront and then you have any combination in the middle.

Spain play that way, germany played that way, england played that way and so did most teams. In fact im not sure if any teams actually played an orthodox 442.

However, before we write the obituary for the 442, hodgson used it for most of last season and he beat juventus, wolfsburg, shakhtar donetsk and reached the final of the uefa cup.

Systems are important but there are other things that are just as important if not more in the construction of really good teams. I dont think as the squad stands at the moment, that we have the tools to play 442. A few key signings might change that.

One other thing dww - you joined the forum just a few months before me yet you have nearly 18,000 posts more.

Just pointing it out mate.

[dww]

You know football goes through certain trends and at certain times one particular system is more popular than others.

At the moment its the four at the back and one up front with any combination of 5 in the middle either 2 - 3 or 3 - 2.

Definitely true but broadly speaking most winning teams have, since it's introduction, used a back four. I'd agree with Roy in that the biggest area up for discussion and changes in systems are the six players not explicitly part of the defensive unit.

Arsene wenger called it before the world cup in that he thought this would be the tournament where you would see more teams use the 'more structured midfield' approach to matches whereby one is upfront and then you have any combination in the middle.

Spain play that way, germany played that way, england played that way and so did most teams. In fact im not sure if any teams actually played an orthodox 442.

However, before we write the obituary for the 442, hodgson used it for most of last season and he beat juventus, wolfsburg, shakhtar donetsk and reached the final of the uefa cup.

Systems are important but there are other things that are just as important if not more in the construction of really good teams. I dont think as the squad stands at the moment, that we have the tools to play 442. A few key signings might change that.

I think as Roy pointed out there is a danger of getting caught up in the semantics of how we describe systems, though generally I agree with your points.

The important question here is whether or not we will be making any key signings. My feeling is that Roy is bought in to make the most of what we have.

One other thing dww - you joined the forum just a few months before me yet you have nearly 18,000 posts more.

Just pointing it out mate.

Yes, I post more than you.