The Europa Dilemma

[Exiled_red]

i personally think, as i said in another thread, if we pick a team that included the likes of Cavalieri, Degen, Kyriakos, Kelly, Ayala, Wilson, Lucas, Aquilani and ngog - and can't get a result against fc robots - then seriously....why the **** are those players even here.....

I’d like to think that those players would be capable of getting results against a few half decent sides, nevermind with all due respect, some part timers from Macedonia.

I don’t want us to go get knocked out, because i want us to use the europa cup for what it would be ideal for us.....get to the group stage, and guarantee that the likes of Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Ngog, along with whatever senior players aren’t regularly playing in the league (say back up keeper, skrtel, lucas, kuyt or whoever??) – get some game time, that will

1- Keep them match sharp
2- Give them a chance to prove themselves
3- Give them experience or help them find form or confidence or whatever is required to try and push on for the first team.

Take away Reina, Johnson, Agger, Carra, Gerrard, Mascher if he stays, Cole, Torres........those players need to be fresh for the league and not used in the europa cup unless desperate – we have plenty of other players that can be used for away ties in finland on a Thursday night.


If however.....hodgson or the club, are seriously contemplating playing those 7 or 8 key players on a Thursday night in the middle of ****ing nowhere against some bunch of blurts, meaning that they won’t be fresh for one of the vital 38 league games the following Sunday – then yeah **** it i’d rather get knocked out now

I agree with all that

[barnes10]

If however.....hodgson or the club, are seriously contemplating playing those 7 or 8 key players on a Thursday night in the middle of ****ing nowhere against some bunch of blurts, meaning that they won’t be fresh for one of the vital 38 league games the following Sunday – then yeah **** it i’d rather get knocked out now

If Roy does this then my support for him has gone before his first league match. what an absolute **** of a decision that is.

[badpiggy]

I would imagine if Roy is getting any heat from owners or Purslow etc regarding expectations for next season, it must be to get back into CL football and **** everything else. No way is he going to stick Torres et al into the mix on a Thursday night in and play him in the prem on Saturday or Sunday.

And for myself, **** everything bar top 4 this season. Any cup - nice bonus, challlenge for a while even for the title and I'd be ecstatic but CL at all costs for 2011-2012.

[PTP]

part of me thinks, that we are in a reasonable position -
Actually i’ll rephrase that.....we have a good opportunity to make the best out of a ****ty situation.

Putting a positive spin on the negatives.........we are broke, so can’t assemble a huge squad full of quality that is capable of competing in the league, europa and the fa and carling cups.....but it also means for the first time in a few years, we’re not even being talked about as contenders for top 4 let alone a title challenge, plus no major distractions from the champions league – expectation for us, for once, is low.

The pressure is off slightly. We still have half a dozen or so top class players......with the likes of reina, johnson, agger, carra, gerrard, cole and hopefully mascherano and torres – fill in the gaps with the reasonable squad players and promising youngsters and get the best out of them, and a bit of luck on the injury front then we are more than capable of competing with anyone over a 38 game season.......

This has to be the priority, if we get those key players playing in as many league games as possible, then we will suprise a few people i think. Thats why those players need to be fit and fresh for the 38 league games.

And then as i pointed out – we have a few young lads coming through that, until now it’s always been maybe a bit of a risk or a bit too soon to throw them in because we had title aspirations or champions league campaign.....now though, the expectations lower and as such the pressure off, we have a great opportunity, certainly with the europa, fa and carling cups – to give some good game time to Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco and maybe one or two others.

With the right planning and management – we could have a positive season*. It just comes down to what the plan is – if Hodgson and the board are expecting us to compete in both the league and europa and intend on using those 7 or 8 quality players as much as possible in both – it won’t happen. They will tire, burn out, and stumble into another 7th place league finish and get knocked out in the quarter finals of the Europa – whoopyde****ing doo

*for me.....i reckon we did the things i am suggesting, our top players are still good enough to get us back in the top 4 and champions league next season......and whats the worst that could happen – the youngsters and squadies play in the europa and cup games – getting say 8 to 15 games, where we assess and realise they ain’t up to it, or they do well, suprise a few people, get a run in one of the competitions, and we find we have 3 or 4 of them in a position to push for the first team.

[PTP]

anyway - roy hodgson, liverpool board....read this thread - Europa League dilemma solved!

[Chazza]

Just slightly off topic but Thursdays game is gonna be on PPV!!!!

FK Rabotnicki vs Liverpool FC To Be Shown Live In UK

Pay-Per-View satellite channel Primetime are to show Liverpool's game against FK Rabotnicki live on Thursday.

Information is limited but they have confirmed that they will be broadcasting the game on Sky Digital channel 480.

A statement issued by Primetime reads: "Thursday 29th July join Primetime in our first foray into football with FK Rabotnicki vs Liverpool FC live in the 3rd round of the Europa League qualifiers.

"We kick off at 7:45pm live from Philip II Arena in Republic of Macedonia where Roy Hodgson's boys will be battling it out.

"Catch the match live exclusively on Primetime Channel 480 on Sky."

You can contact Primetime Customer Support or you can email them at [email protected]

£4.99 For a 3rd round Europa Qualifier FFS!

[Reece]

That's ****ing outrageous.

[red g]

that is a fookin shocker !!!

[G]

I agree with all that

Me too but to be honest I can't see the last paragragh happening which is why I'd rather we were out of it to remove the temptation of ****ing our league season up for that ****ty prize.

I'd be delighted if we did an Arsenal and started giving the fringe players a run in the lesser comps such as this.Maybe its the Rafa era that has me cynical cos i know he wouldn't have done it.hopefully Roy has a different outlook

[RedReet]

Are lfc tv showing a delayed KO?

18:45 Countdown to Kick Off
All the build up to our first Europa League Qualifier

19:00 Countdown to Kick Off
All the build up to our first Europa League Qualifier

19:45 Intermssion
LFC TV is off air while Liverpool play FK Rabotnicki

20:00 The Match: Europa League
Liverpool are in action in the Europa League 3rd Round Qualifier

22:00 This is Anfield: Matchday Special
Call 0845 2344567 or email [email protected] to join our live phone in from 9pm

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/lfctv/whats-on-when

[Chrono]

Ah well, **** that then. I'm not paying £5 to those cunts to see this crappy match. This is exactly the sort of thing that should be boycotted.

[Craig_H]

I'm sure there'll be streams available online somewhere, for free.

[PTP]

Me too but to be honest I can't see the last paragragh happening which is why I'd rather we were out of it to remove the temptation of ****ing our league season up for that ****ty prize.

I'd be delighted if we did an Arsenal and started giving the fringe players a run in the lesser comps such as this.Maybe its the Rafa era that has me cynical cos i know he wouldn't have done it.hopefully Roy has a different outlook

aye - it's why virtually every post i do this summer mentions it in the hope that someone in the club notices it', thinks it a good idea, and it gets done haha

with the second bit i've highlighted - again it's why i keep going on about it and couldn't agree more reference rafa-

not wishing to turn it into any kinda of rafa debate, but i really felt if rafa had stayed, then you could guarentee that regardless of who we were playing in the europa, and who we had the sunday, he'd be playing torres, agger, johnson, all vital players, all suffered with injuries arguebly because they have never recovered fully? - as much as i like rafa for some things, this is something i really don't want to see happen and part of why i was ok with him leaving.

[Guest]

I'm sure there'll be streams available online somewhere, for free.

I can't believe how much I agree with you those days, it's scary.

Rafa must have been the one interfering with our potential love in all that time.

[Chrono]

I can't believe how much I agree with you those days, it's scary.

Rafa must have been the one interfering with our potential love in all that time.

Our first Est wedding