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    Originally posted by Reece View Post
    4-4-2 is ****.
    I'd argue that there still is place for 4-4-2 in the modern game in certain situations if there is the correct personal for it. Clearly we don't have that. I was gobsmacked when I saw the starting 11.

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      Originally posted by Zapater View Post
      **** off Roy, a 5 year old could have looked at that formation, tactics and personal he employed in this game and told you it wouldn't work against anyone half decent. I'm happy we didn't get out of jail for that this evening because hopefully he'll realise that you can't play like that. But ****ing hell for a professional football manager to put that 11 out there and expect a result is just embarrassing.

      I didn't want him here from day one, I've tried to be tolerable but I can only see this season going from bad to worse. Just the state of our squad (look at our lack of midfield options, then letting Aquilani go on top of it), the players application and attitude, they all look pissed off like they're still in last season and fairly dodgy management.

      It's 2 games, I know but there's nothing to suggest that things are on the up.
      bit much this

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        Stop going on about the ****ing table. Jeez, years gone by you never used to see a table until after 5 games. This showing tables after 2 games is stupid unless there are 3 teams in the league. ****ing Sky hype.

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          Originally posted by Zapater View Post
          **** off Roy, a 5 year old could have looked at that formation, tactics and personal he employed in this game and told you it wouldn't work against anyone half decent. I'm happy we didn't get out of jail for that this evening because hopefully he'll realise that you can't play like that. But ****ing hell for a professional football manager to put that 11 out there and expect a result is just embarrassing.

          I didn't want him here from day one, I've tried to be tolerable but I can only see this season going from bad to worse. Just the state of our squad (look at our lack of midfield options, then letting Aquilani go on top of it), the players application and attitude, they all look pissed off like they're still in last season and fairly dodgy management.

          It's 2 games, I know but there's nothing to suggest that things are on the up.
          oh shut the **** up and go hurt yourself.

          you've tried to be tolerable and we've just played our second league game of the season and but for Reina ****ing up we'd have 3 points.

          I remember Kenny picking a team to paly arsenal at highbury, about 6 defenders and we lost 3-0 awful. Didn't we lose at HOME to Chelsea 4-1? Get over yourself. Come back and **** my arse if its the same story in 6 months.
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            Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post
            I believe that title is held by Wayne Rooney!
            Our boy is catching up rather rapidly.

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              Silly playing 442 with those players. Kuyt is crap in a four and Jova wasn't at the races at all.

              That coupled with Johnson being poor all night and a centre half playing left back and it's no surprise we had no shape, no width.

              If we persist with this formation then we need way more new blood, personally 4231 should be our system.
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                Originally posted by Daniel Torres View Post
                Stop going on about the ****ing table. Jeez, years gone by you never used to see a table until after 5 games. This showing tables after 2 games is stupid unless there are 3 teams in the league. ****ing Sky hype.
                I agree about that, but it's not the table that i'm ****ed off about right now.

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                  Originally posted by Marsh View Post
                  i dont get it people said we didnt have the players for Rafas formations and wanted 4 4 2



                  i dont think 451 is negative at all.

                  or 4 1 3 1
                  Only 10 players?
                  Modifying post.

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                    Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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                      Originally posted by Zapater View Post
                      I'd argue that there still is place for 4-4-2 in the modern game in certain situations if there is the correct personal for it. Clearly we don't have that. I was gobsmacked when I saw the starting 11.
                      Yeah fair point, but I certainly don't think you play it away from home against a fellow top 4 competitor these days.

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